Muhammad Sang Nekrofil

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Muhammad Sang Nekrofil

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Saturday, January 31, 2009

Muhammad Sang Nekrofil

Ketika dulu Zakariah Boutros mengatakan bahwa Nabi Muhammad melakukan kegiatan sex nekrofilia dan gay, tak banyak orang yang menaruh perhatian. Aku menulis hal ini beberapa tahun di blog-ku dan tak banyak mendapat perhatian.


necrophilia

Penyakit jiwa dengan ketertarikan pada mayat

necrophile

One who is subject to necrophilia.
In ancient Egypt, there is record of the treatment of the bodies of young women that were set out to decompose for a few days before being delivered to embalmers. This practice originated from the need to discourage the men performing the funerary customs from having sexual interest in their charges. Herodotus writes in The Histories that, to discourage intercourse with a corpse, Ancient Egyptians left deceased beautiful women to decay for "three or four days" before giving them to the embalmers.

In some societies the practice was enacted owing to a belief that the soul of an unmarried woman would not find peace; among the Kachin of Myanmar, versions of a marriage ceremony were held to lay a dead virgin to rest, which would involve intercourse with the corpse. Similar practices obtained in some pre-modern Central European societies when a woman who was engaged to be married died before the wedding

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This is from a book called "Kanz Al Umal" (The Treasure of the Workers), in the chapter of "The issues of women", authored by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in "Al-Jami Al-Saghir," written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.

Narrated by Ibn Abbas:

‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I SLEPT with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali.

"The Arabic word used here for slept is "Id'tajat," and literally means "lay down" with her. It is often used to mean, "Lay down to have sex." Muhammad is understood as saying that because he slept with her she has become like a wife to him so she will be considered like a "mother of the believers." This will supposedly prevent her from being tormented in the grave, since Muslims believe that as people wait for the Judgment Day they will be tormented in the grave. "Reduce the pressure" here means that the torment won't be as much because she is now a "mother of the believers" after Muhammad slept with her and "consummated" the union. "

Here is something to ponder

It has been theorized that either of the following situation could be antecedents to necrophilia The necrophile develops poor self-esteem, perhaps due to he was very fearful of rejection by women/men and he desired a sexual partner who was incapable of rejecting him

68 percent of necrophiles motivated by a desire for an unresisting and unrejecting partner, and this could be very much the case, because, I doubt many of the women this bastard screwed had much choice. No women would enjoy being fucked by the man who had just murdered her husband, there is no way a 9 years old is going to enjoin a penis thrust into her. So it stands to reason the only willing sex partner he could find was his dead aunt, and I guess the reason we dont her much more about his buggery with the dead, is because the other muslims had more respect for their dead.
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Fatwa Alert: Necrophilia is Halal in Islam - Muhammad's graveside instructions revived

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Muhammad so loved the people ~ that ~ he slept with a corpse!?

Necrophilla has already been allowed in Islam. According to the Hadith entitled 'Intercourse with a Dead Woman' Muhammad goes beyond the grave to indulge his many desires. In this new Moroccan fatwa, a Muslim man is allowed to go with the body of his dead wife. But in the original Hadiths, Muhammad placed no such restrictions on engaging in intercourse with the dead, these are accompanied with instructions containing the usual Islamic obsession of whether to wash or not to wash the body. There are therefore no restrictions on sleeping with the dead in Islam. Horrifyingly one could connect this to the many battles that Muhammad fought. In which Muhammad ordered his man to rape non-Muslim or 'captive' women ~ in front their husbands ~ when he saw some were reluctant to do so ~ these words, recorded in the Hadiths, are said to be the source behind Koran verse 4:24. But with the clear instruction to rape non-Muslim women, coupled with the permission to sleep with the dead, one could imagine Muhammad's battlefield being worst than any horror movie.

All in all it was a hell of a way to spread a religion.


Over the years, and throughout the history of man, men have done such things, but it is rare if ever that they would be called a Prophet.


Yes, we do have a freak show going on these days. But none of our Monstres Sacrés can match the latest Fatwa published by the (respected) Islamic Scholar and member of the religious establishment, Abdelbari Zemzami. He basically allows sexual intercourse with a corpse.

Yes. Necrophilia is now Halal in Morocco by the grace of Alem Zemzami.

I should perhaps be more specific in Zemzami’s Fatwa: he allows the widowed husband to have sexual intercourse with the corpse of his deceased wife. The Fatwa does not say whether it reciprocates for a woman (although I suspect even with rigor mortis, it will not do) nor does it specify how many hours after the wife’s death a man can still, you know… perform their marital duties. If it was not for the scholar’s level of seniority, I would dismiss this fatwa as yet another deranged, lonely individual who did not get some for a while. But this is Zemzami. And it is a Fatwa from an official of the Habous ministry. If indeed such Fatwa is genuine.

It is difficult for Muslims ~ given that the reality of their religion sucks ~ or rather sinks!


Give it up!!

Muslims should throw this one down ~ these are not the days ~ when you could flash a mirror and some smoke ~ and everyone's jaw would drop in amazement ~ this is the age of information. It is a little bit more difficult to convince people ~ and traditional wars used to spread Islam are no longer possible.


But the issue goes beyond our funny Zemzami – please follow the hashtags#FunnyZemzami and #ZemzamiFatwa, you will get a kicking out of the twittoma’s imagination and acerbic witticism- and strikes at the very heart of individual freedom and the rule of positive law; Zemzami is empowered to produce Islamic rulings that can easily be considered an obligation on the Muslim community in Morocco; As a Alem, an Islamic Scholar, his Fatwas are norms. He can claim to actually dictate what we, as members of the Ummah, should do or not do. We are thus submitted to the double fetter of God’s law, and Man’s law. We individual citizens have no grip on such legislation, an infringement on our democratic rights, and perhaps the most straightforward argument in favour of the criticism that Morocco is no democracy.

Zemzami justifies his ruling by means of analogy: Since a good Muslim couple will meet again in Heaven, and since death does not alter the marital contract (in his opinion) it is not a hindrance to the husband’s desire to have sexual intercourse with the corpse of his (freshly) deceased wife. A deranged mind and flawed logical thinking seem not to be part of the position of Senior Alem’s requirements. I am no Islamic Scholar (thank God) but I remember from my (compulsory and utterly boring) High School Islamic courses that there is a minimum amount of logical thinking when the Imam (or Alem) makes their Ijtihad, or investigations. And quite frankly, I really don’t see how he managed to find a ruling for the deceased; The Islamic literature is very extensive on the living (as it normally it should be) but Zemzami’s ruling tops them all. He seemed to overlook the procreating objective of marital mating (this is why concepts such as “نكاح المتعة” are forbidden) or even

Indeed, Zemzami’s ruling is funny. It is so, because if one wants to think of it otherwise, the first thing to spring to mind is something like: “what goes on the man’s life to take such a keen interest in such an obscure issue to devote time and resources and come up with a an even stranger ruling”? I mean, perhaps the Habous officials do bore themselves to death in their offices, but still, they are civil servants and receive their salaries (comfortable salaries in Zemzami’s case) on the taxpayer’s dime. It is only just to question the man’s competence (never mind sanity) and legitimacy to dream up rulings regulating our lives.

Abdelbari Zemzami, again, is no ordinary scholar: he is formally a “الخبير في فقه النوازل“ which means an Expert in Exceptional Matters, issues that have not been delineated in the Quran, the Hadith, or anywhere in Sharia law. Zemzami actually did his job: such a bizarre occurrence never happened before, and was never discussed in past scholarly work or in the original Islamic laws, so it is up to him, the expert, to come up with something. Yes, Zemzami is the chief scholar at the vanguard of new Islamic rulings designed to make life more harmonious within the Islamic community. Frightening.

The whole idea of a Ulema corps is at odds with democracy. First because it is another infringement on individual rights; Indeed, we are living in a society, and because of it, individuals need to sacrifice some of their rights for the sake of the collective freedom. The democratic setting minimizes these fetters to the necessary rules required for a peaceful coexistence. This means that no restrictions should be put on intimate issues -which religions, especially Islam, want to regulate in accordance to their teachings, so as to achieve their Holy City utopia. In view of these elements, positive law is sufficient an infringement on individual freedom to indulge in adding yet another restriction. And even though there is no direct link between the Penal sanction of non-marital sexual relationships and Zemzami’s fatwa, I suspect frustrations due to the repressive sexual policy, as it were, do lead to suchVaudevillian situations; Opening up to sexual tolerance and essential the breaking of ‘wedlock monopoly‘ could help stem dangerous behaviour (rather than encourage them, as the conservative theory goes)

Zemzami’s ruling is a blessing in disguise: it furthers the cause of secularists; It is the proof that dogmatic and conservative policies are a failure, and frustrations and social deviances arising from such fettering rules are a blatant rebuttal to those who believe all Moroccans will be moral knights and dames. Subsequently, instead of treating everyone as a devout Muslim (and punishing anyone who does not care about it) it is easier, and nicer, to scrap these pieces of legislation. It also have the courage to do away with hypocrisy (the penal code punishes non-observant ofRamadan but not those who do not go to the Mosque, even though prayers have seniority as an Islamic pillar)

Oh, and one last thing. Zemzami really should be put in some asylum. Or allowed to set up a One Man Show; that way he will do no harm to the saner people. And it seems he stands by his ruling: necrophilia is Halal. Looking forward to the next ruling on f**king goats.
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Al suyuti is a true big boy islamic scholar:

Jalaluddin Al-Suyuti (Arabic: جلال الدين السيوطي‎) (c. 1445–1505 AD) also known as Ibn al-Kutub (son of books) was an Egyptian writer, religious scholar, juristic expert and teacher whose works deal with a wide variety of subjects in Islamic theology. considered to be one of the Ashabun-Nazzar (Assessors) whose degree of Ijtihad is agreed upon. The number of teachers from whom he received ijazah, religious authorization, studied under and heard from reaches one hundred and fifty shaykhs, Al-Suyuti held various positions in his lifetime such as that of teacher of the Arabic language in 866H, he was authorized to give fatwa in 876H and he taught and dictated hadith at the University of Ibn Tuloon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Suyuti

Basically the story goes like this, according to muhummad, when people die they get tourtured in the grave. Muhummads buddy ali's mother died, ali was distressed, possibley distressed because she would be tourtured in the grave. Muhummad, being the quintessental cult leader believes that women married to him will get special favour, therefore he decided to marry this dead woman, and go down into the grave with her to presumable consumate the marriage:

Muhummad slept with the mother of ali in the grave,
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There are other hadith that show that muhummad was a bit crazy in grave yards:

Narrated Jabir: The Prophet came to (the grave of) 'Abdullah bin Ubai after his body was buried. The body was brought out and then the Prophet put his saliva over the body and clothed it in his shirt. (Bukhari Book #23, Hadith #360) http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHad...rds_display=10

Jabir reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) came to the grave of 'Abdullah b. Ubayy, brought him out from that, placed him on his knee and put his saliva in his mouth and shrouded him in his own shirt and Allah knows best. (Sahih muslim Book #038, Hadith #6678) http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHad...rds_display=10

When muslims say "and Allah knows best" its usually used by the islamic scholars when they cant explain something. Even the reporter of this hadith seems totally baffled as to what muhummad was doing.


(14) Narrated Anas bin Malik: We were (in the funeral procession) of one of the daughters of the Prophet and he was sitting by the side of the grave. I saw his eyes shedding tears. He said, "Is there anyone among you who did not have sexual relations with his wife last night?" Abu Talha replied in the affirmative. And so the Prophet told him to get down in the grave. And so he got down in her grave. (Book #23, Hadith #374) http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHad...rds_display=10
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versi hadits tsb adalah "versi abal2" karena tidak didukung dengan dalil Al-Qur'an, sedangkan "versi benar" dari hadits tsb adalah seperti ini :
Ibnu Abbas berkata: “Pada suatu hari ada seseorang menghampar jubahnya di atas kuburan dan ia tidak tahu bahwa tempat itu adalah kuburan, ia membaca surat Al-Mulk, kemudian ia mendengar suara jeritan dari kuburan itu: Inilah yang menyelamatkan aku. Kemudian kejadian itu diceriterakan kepada Rasulullah saw. Lalu beliau bersabda: Surat Al-Mulk dapat menyelamatkan penghuni kubur dari azab kubur.” (Ad-Da’awat Ar-Rawandi, hlm 279/817; Al-Bihar 82/ 64, 92/313/2, 102/269/
selengkapnya di : http://tafsirtematis.wordpress.com/2008 ... t-al-mulk/ :goodman:
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Captain Pancasila wrote:versi hadits tsb adalah "versi abal2" karena tidak didukung dengan dalil Al-Qur'an, sedangkan "versi benar" dari hadits tsb adalah seperti ini :
Kalau Abal2, kenapa negara2 Islam seperti Maroko dan Mesir mengijinkan necropilia?

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In ancient Egypt, there is record of the treatment of the bodies of young women that were set out to decompose for a few days before being delivered to embalmers. This practice originated from the need to discourage the men performing the funerary customs from having sexual interest in their charges. Herodotus writes in The Histories that, to discourage intercourse with a corpse, Ancient Egyptians left deceased beautiful women to decay for "three or four days" before giving them to the embalmers.


In some societies the practice was enacted owing to a belief that the soul of an unmarried woman would not find peace; among the Kachin of Myanmar, versions of a marriage ceremony were held to lay a dead virgin to rest, which would involve intercourse with the corpse. Similar practices obtained in some pre-modern Central European societies when a woman who was engaged to be married died before the wedding

Now let's take a look at what Muhammed did!

This is from a book called "Kanz Al Umal" (The Treasure of the Workers), in the chapter of "The issues of women", authored by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in "Al-Jami Al-Saghir," written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.

A rare manuscript of the book is available in the Chester Beatty Library in Dublin Ireland.

Narrated by Ibn Abbas:

‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I SLEPT with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali.

"The Arabic word used here for slept is "Id'tajat," and literally means "lay down" with her. It is often used to mean, "Lay down to have sex." Muhammad is understood as saying that because he slept with her she has become like a wife to him so she will be considered like a "mother of the believers." This will supposedly prevent her from being tormented in the grave, since Muslims believe that as people wait for the Judgment Day they will be tormented in the grave. "Reduce the pressure" here means that the torment won't be as much because she is now a "mother of the believers" after Muhammad slept with her and "consummated" the union. "

Here is something to ponder:

It has been theorized that either of the following situation could be antecedents to necrophilia. The necrophile develops poor self-esteem, perhaps due to the fact that he was very fearful of rejection by women/men and he desired a sexual partner who was incapable of rejecting him.

68 percent of necrophiles are motivated by a desire for an unresisting and unrejecting partner, and this could be very much the case, because, I doubt many of the women this false, fake rapist prophet Muhammed raped had much choice. No women would enjoy having intercourse with a man who had just murdered her husband, there is no way a 9 years old is going to enjoin a penis thrust into her. So it stands to reason the only willing sex partner he could find was his dead aunt.

An In-depth look at another Sahih Muslim Hadith that condones necrophilia:

Book 003, Number 0684:

Abu Musa reported: There cropped up a difference of opinion between a group of Muhajirs (Emigrants) and a group of Ansar (Helpers) (and the point of dispute was) that the Ansar said: The bath (because of sexual intercourse) becomes obligatory only when the semen spurts out or ejaculates. But the Muhajirs said: When a man has sexual intercourse (with the woman), a bath becomes obligatory (no matter whether or not there is seminal emission or ejaculation). Abu Musa said: Well, I satisfy you on this (issue). He (Abu Musa, the narrator) said: I got up (and went) to 'A'isha and sought her permission and it was granted, and I said to her: O Mother, or Mother of the Faithful, I want to ask you about a matter on which I feel shy. She said: Don't feel shy of asking me about a thing which you can ask your mother, who gave you birth, for I am too your mother. Upon this I said: What makes a bath obligatory for a person? She replied: You have come across one well informed! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When anyone sits amidst four parts (of the woman) and the circumcised parts touch each other a bath becomes obligatory.

Commentary of Famous Muslim Scholar Shaykh al-Islam Imam Muhyiddin Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi on this hadith:

The meaning of the hadith is that the necessity to wash is not limited to when semen is ejaculated, rater it is when the penile head (Hash-fa, lit. "the head of the male member," i.e. head of the penis) penetrates the vagina, then it is necessary for the man and the woman to wash. There is no disagreement on this today, even though there was disagreement on this by some of the early companions and others later. However, an agreement was later reached and this is what we have shown and presented previously.

Our companions have said that if the penile head has penetrated A WOMAN’S ANUS, or A MAN’S ANUS, or AN ANIMAL’S VAGINA or ITS ANUS then it is necessary to wash whether the one being penetrated is alive OR DEAD, YOUNG OR OLD, whether it was done intentionally or absentmindedly, whether it was done willfully or forcefully. This also applies if the woman places the male member inside her while the man is asleep, whether the penis is erect or not, whether the penis is circumcised or uncircumcised. All these situations require that the person committing the act and the one the act is committed on must wash themselves, unless the person committing the act or the person the act is committed on is a young male or female. In that case it cannot be said that the person must wash, for they do not have the responsibility, rather it is said that this person is in a state of impurity. If that person can discern (the sexual act) then his guardian can command him to wash just as he commands him to perform the ablution washing for prayers. For if he prays without washing, his prayer has not been performed correctly; likewise if he doesn’t wash after he reaches puberty he must be forced to wash. If he washed as a youth and then reaches puberty, then he does not have to repeat the washing.


The scholarly interpretation of the hadith above comes from Imam Yahiya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi's book Al Minhaj Be Sharh Sahih Muslim . Here are two short bios of Al-Nawawi for those who are interested to know his qualifications as a scholar and commentator from two Islamic websites:


Imam Nawawi (d. 676)

One of the great Sufi scholars, strictest latter-time hadith masters, and most meticulous of jurists, Shaykh al-Islam Imam Muhyiddin Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi is with al-Rafi`i the principal reference of the late Shafi`i school. His books remain authoritative in the methodology of the law, in Qur'an commentary, and in hadith. His commentary of Sahih Muslim is second only to Ibn Hajar's commentary of Sahih Bukhari. Allah gave his famous compilation of Forty Hadiths more circulation and fame than possibly any other book of hadith, large or small, and has allowed Nawawi to be of immense benefit to the Community of Islam.

Nawawi was considered a Sufi and a saint, as is evident from the titles of some of his works and that of Sakhawi's biography entitled Tarjamat shaykh al-islam, qutb al-awliya' al-kiram, faqih al-anam, muhyi al-sunna wa mumit al-bid`a Abi Zakariyya Muhyi al-Din al-Nawawi (The biography of the Shaykh of Islam, the Pole of Noble Saints, the Jurist of Mankind, the Reviver of the Sunna and the Slayer of Innovation... al-Nawawi). (Source)


Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (d. 676/1277)

Imam Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi was born in the village of Nawa in Southern Syria, Nawawi spent most of his life in Damascus where he lived in a simple manner, devoted to Allah, engaging single-mindedly in worship, study, writing and teaching various Islamic sciences. The life of this world seems scarcely to have impinged upon him. He was a versatile and extremely dedicated scholar whose breadth of learning was matched by its depth.
Imam Nawawi died at the young age of 44 years, leaving behind him numerous works of great importance, the most famous of these being:

* al-Arba'un Nabawi (An-Nawawis Forty Hadith)
* Riyadhus saleheen
* al-Maqasid (Al-Nawawi's Manual of Islam).
* Kitab al-Adhkar,
* Minhaj al-Talibin (a main reference for Shafi'i fiqh)
* Shar' Sahih Muslim (he was the first to arrange the sahih of Muslim in the now familiar categories)


Although best known for his works in hadith, Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (d. 676/1277) was also the Imam of the later Shafi'i school of Jurisprudence, and widely acknowledged as the intellectual heir to Imam Shafi’i. He was a renowned scholar and jurist who dedicated his life to the pursuit of Islamic learning.
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SI mumad saw udah gak tahan ingin mencicipi bidadari surga di alam kubur ....
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Captain Pancasila wrote:versi hadits tsb adalah "versi abal2" karena tidak didukung dengan dalil Al-Qur'an, sedangkan "versi benar" dari hadits tsb adalah seperti ini :
walet wrote: Kalau Abal2, kenapa negara2 Islam seperti Maroko dan Mesir mengijinkan necropilia?

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karena CP salah beli buku hadits, buku yang dia beli itu yang abal abal,
mungkin penerbitnya Kanisius :rolling:

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