How Neil Armstrong "became" a Muslim
Ref: http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Hoaxes/neil.html
Among the many rumors circulating in the Islamic world, the claim that Neil Armstrong, the famous Astronaut, has become a Muslim seems to be one that will never die.
Hopefully, the following statement will help to put this claim at rest. Neil Armstrong participated in the Global Leadership Forum in Malaysia on 6 September 2005. The Star Malaysia, currently the most widely read English newspaper in Malaysia, took the occasion to interview him on his moon landing mission with Apollo 11. In the article, Armstrong recalls moon landing, published on 7 September 2005, both in print and online, one finds this statement:
Armstrong, 75, also denied he had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had converted to Islam.
The rest of this article, originally written in 1996 and updated a couple of times since then, documents the reasons why anyone would even ask Neil Armstrong such an odd question, and explains the necessity for clarifying this issue.
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Mid November 1996 the following report reached us:
We have a very good Islamic community radio station here in Cape Town.
The following story was told for the honest truth on our Muslim radio
the other day:
When Louis Armstrong and co. walked on the moon, they heard sounds
in a strange language they did not understand. Only later, after
returning to earth, did they realize that it was actually the azaan!
I have seen a few mosques with powerful speaker systems, but wow,
somebody down here certainly turned on the power on that day!
[Obviously the reference was supposed to be in regard to Neil Armstrong, the astronaut, not Louis Armstrong, the Jazz musician.]
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This rumor also surfaces every other month or so on the Islamic newsgroup, examples of one of the more recent appearances:
Subject: Re: NEIL ARMSTRONG Muslim?
From: "BB."
Date: 1996/08/26
Message-Id: <4vtjnd$[email protected]>
Organization: University of Canberra, Australia
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
On 20 Aug 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF IT TRUE THAT NEIL ARMSTRONG IS A MUSLIM??
Salam
i heard that when he went to the moon he heard the Athan (call for prayer)
so he heard it again on earth and he became a muslim, i read an article
that he lives in lebanon now (my country) and his neighbours say he
doesn't talk to anyone... he could have been so famous the
second man on the moon is still famous now, but neil decided to live like
this. Alah aalam (god knows). if anyone else know about him i'd like to
know more.
wassalam
Here two postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam in response to the question and statement by Muslims at least informed that it is a rumor, ... yet Gilberto reporting on some other rumor he heard on how the original rumor might have started (rumors about rumors, getting ever more complicated):
From: [email protected] (GSimp95605)
Date: 1996/08/23
Message-Id: <4vkcdj$[email protected]>
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Asalam-alaikum,
What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
To the best of my knowledge, he's not Muslim (allahu alim)
Salam
GIlberto
and
In article <50k5cg$[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mas'ud Ahmed Khan) writes:
NO, this keeps popping up time and again, from what I gather
Neil Armstrong is not and was never a Muslim, he lives in the
US and is a bit of a recluse, he occasionally lectures.
Someone told me that he explicitly denied being a Muslim and
does not know how the rumour started.
It is sad that some Muslims make up stories that have a snowball
effect and sooner or later become a "fact" that Muslims boast
about can you imagine what impression we give to those who
know about Armstrong?
wa'as-Salaam
Mas'ud
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In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr. Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.
NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
LEBANON, OHIO 45036
July 14,1983
Mr. Phil Parshall Director
Asian Research Center
International Christian
Fellowship 29524 Bobrich
Livonia, Michigan 48152
Dear Mr. Parshall:
Mr. Armstrong has asked me to reply to your letter and
to thank you for the courtesy of your inquiry.
The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
untrue.
Several publications in Malaysia, Indonesia and other
countries have published these reports without verifi-
cation. We apologize for any inconvenience that this
incompetent journalism may have caused you.
Subsequently, Mr. Armstrong agreed to participate in a
telephone interview, reiterating his reaction to these
stories. I am enclosing copies of the United States
State Department's communications prior to and after
that interview.
Sincerely
Vivian White
Administrative Aide
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Comments: In our possession is a photocopy of this letter which is identical in text to the above, except that the street address and phone number of Mr. Armstrong contained in that copy are deleted. The above also shows where this idea came from, that Mr. Armstrong supposedly lives in Lebanon. Yes, Lebanon is true, yet this "Lebanon" is not in the Middle East, but in the Midwest of the United States of America.
A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and consulates in the Islamic world:
P 04085 0Z MAR 83 ZEX
FM SECSTATE WASHD C
TO ALL DIPLOMATIC AND CONSULAR POSTS PRIORITY
BI
UNCLAS STATE 056309
FOLLOWING REPEAT SENT ACTION ALL EAST ASIAN AND
PACIFIC DIPLOMATIC POSTS DTD MAR 02.
QUOTE: UNCLAS STATE 056309
E.O. 12356: N/A
TAGS: PREL, PGOV, US, ID
SUBJECT: ALLEGED CONVERSION OF NEIL ARMSTRONG TO ISLAM
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REF: JAKARTA 3281 AND 2374 (NOT ..)
1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON THE MOON IN 1969. AS A RESULT OF SUCH REPORTS, ARMSTRONG HAS RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, AND A FEELER FROM AT LEAST ONE GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HIS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATION IN ISLAMIC ACTIVITIES.
1. WHILE STRESSING HIS STRONG DESIRE NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE OR SHOW DISRESPECT FOR ANY RELIGION, ARMSTRONG HAS ADVISED DEPARTMENT THAT REPORTS OF HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM ARE INACCURATE.
2. IF POST RECEIVE QUERIES ON THIS MATTER, ARMSTRONG REQUESTS THAT THEY POLITELY BUT FIRMLY INFORM QUERYING PARTY THAT HE HAS NOT CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND HAS NO CURRENT PLANS OR DESIRE TO TRAVEL OVERSEAS TO
3. PARTICIPATE IN ISLAMIC RELIGOUS ACTIVITIES.
Click here to view the scanned photocopy of this above note from the US State Department.
http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Hoaxes/armstate.gif
Furthermore, the following letter to the editor was printed in the Journal Arabia, The Islamic World Review, Issue June 1985/Ramadan 1405, page 5:
A MUSLIM OVER THE MOON?
Arabia is by far the superior newsmagazine regarding what is going on in the Muslim world today. Your reporting is extremely thorough and seeks to be as objective as possible. Your willingness to criticise political policies as well as religious happenings in the Muslim world is refreshing. As an American I would feel your slant on the West is basically fair.
It would be most helpful if you would dispel a misconception prevalent in almost all Muslim countries. From Morocco to the Philippines it is commonly believed that Neil Armstrong heard the Azan on the moon, converted to Islam and is now engaged in the full-time propagation of the Muslim faith.
The US State Department has issued a memo saying that the story about Armstrong's conversion was untrue. The memo said "While stressing his strong desire not so offend anyone or show disrespect for any religion, Armstrong has advised Department that reports of his conversion to Islam are inaccurate." The memo further says, "if post receives queries on this matter, Armstrong requests that they politely but firmly inform querying party that he has not converted to Islam and has no current plans or desires to travel overseas to participate in Islamic religious activities."
N.B. The memo was sent to all our diplomatic and consular posts.
Dr Phil Parshall
Director, Asian Research Centre Manila, Philippines
Click here for a scanned image of this page in Arabia.
http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Hoaxes/armarabia.gif
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Sadly, as documented above, this rumor still goes round and round in the Islamic world, over a decade after it has been denied over and over again. Not only in mouth to mouth propaganda but it is even spread by Muslim radio stations.
Yet even when the Muslims tell their brothers that it is a false rumor, they are not convinced, the newest newsgroup tidbit is
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong -first man on the moon!
From: Farzad <[email protected]>
Date: 1997/01/17
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
> No it is false, it is a myth spread in Muslim world. Armstrong denies
> this story. He is not Muslim ...
He perfomed prayers in Turkey in the same masjid where Malcolm X prayed and huge crowd prayed behind him.
salaams,
Is this rumor ever going to die? My question to Farzad would be (as to all others who spread the rumor): Were you there when he prayed in this masjid? -- No? Thought so.
Response the above: [Complaint], [Response]
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But never shall they be satisfied ...
Anyway, this person gives at least some references for the rumors.
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong - first man on the moon!
From: [email protected] (M Damron)
Date: 1997/02/02
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
I thought he did convert. As an American that converted to Islam I have
come across this story in both Islamic and Non-Islamic sources. Two of
these include the book A Muslim Primer by Ira Zepp and another book titled
Defenders of God.
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Without making any own claim as to its veracity:
The Jerusalem Christian Review (Volume 9, Issue 4) reports about a visit by Neil Armstrong as being a devout (Christian) believer (with more details in the full story).
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Somebody sent me this response:
By the way, I heard from an authoritative source that Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman has just announced that he has become an astronaut!
Neil Armstrong masuk Islam ?
Neil Armstrong masuk Islam ?
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Neil Armstrong Hoax [Revisited]
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1. Abdullah A. Amin Jan 20 1997, 3:00 pm
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From: "Abdullah A. Amin" <[email protected]> - Find messages by this author
Date: 1997/01/20
Subject: Neil Armstrong Hoax [Revisited]
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Assalamu Alaikum.
It so looks like some brothers have started to look into the hoaxes J. Katz
(http://www.math.gatech.edu/~jkatz/Islam/Hoaxes/) has put together in his
web page, and has commenced to pick the inconsistencies in some of his
arguments. I myself have looked into the Neil Armstrong hoax, and found few
anomalies.
J. Katz states
>Here two informed Muslim postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam
>in response to the question and statement:
>>From: [email protected] (GSimp95605 )
>>Date: 1996/08/23
>>Message-Id:
>>Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
>Asalam-alaikum,
>>What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
>>heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
>>that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
<stuff deleted...>
Now compare the above with the following:
>In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr.
> Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.
>> NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
>> LEBANON, OHIO 45036
>> July 14,1983
<stuff deleted...>
>>Dear Mr. Parshall:
<stuff deleted...>
>>The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
^^^^^^^
>>the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>untrue.
Mr. Katz makes Gilberto ([email protected] ->Gilberto ) an informed poster
but forgot to notice that Gilberto's info contradicts with what Neil's
letter stated. Neil flatly denied about hearing ahzan _anywhere_. I am now
curious as to what the actual hoax was (nice story? ) ! Can someone in Egypt,
Malaysia, Indonesia (who have been particularly blamed for spreading the
hoax ) or elsewhere dig into old newspapers and let us know what nice story
was made up at that time?
Now to add more spice to the hoax:
>A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and
> consulates in the Islamic world:
<stuff deleted...>
>1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
>BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
>EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
>ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>THE MOON IN 1969.
Now it becomes apparent that U.S. State Dept. itself dragged the hoax one
step further - a hoax on the top of another hoax (hoaxier ??) by stating
that allegation was about the conversion taking place right on the surface
of the moon ! Or is that poorly constructed English ? Well, I guess I have
to take a milder approach here since Neil himself succumbed to mistake when
he made that historical statement "One small step for man, one giant leap
for mankind". I recall reading an article in Reader's Digest which discussed
about the mistake made by Neil. Funny thing is that Neil's statement was
quoted (after correcting the grammatical mistake made by Neil) as "One small
step for a man, one giant leap for mankind" by some leading newspapers while
others reported exactly what Neil uttered. Good God, we don't have another
hoax on this topic. {I don't recall if he said "That's one...". Sorry, I
don't have any reference to look up right now }.
'nuff said.
Peace,
Abdullah Amin ([email protected] )
Dhaka, Bangladesh
P.S. My ISP does not get usenet feed; so if you want to reply to me, please
use my e-address.
2. Jochen Katz Jan 20 1997, 3:00 pm
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From: Jochen Katz <[email protected]> - Find messages by this author
Date: 1997/01/20
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong Hoax [Revisited]
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In article <[email protected]>,
"Abdullah A. Amin" <[email protected]> writes:
| Assalamu Alaikum.
And peace be to you.
| It so looks like some brothers have started to look into the hoaxes J. Katz
| (http://www.math.gatech.edu/~jkatz/Islam/Hoaxes/) has put together in his
| web page, and has commenced to pick the inconsistencies in some of his
| arguments. I myself have looked into the Neil Armstrong hoax, and found few
| anomalies.
I am always glad to observe people take my web site seriously. ;- )
"... and found few anomalies" in normal English usage is a compliment, i.e.
you found basically none. But I have the feeling you meant "... and found a
few anomalies", i.e. a number of them since you then go one to highlight
one item you find to be an anomaly.
| J. Katz states
|
| >Here two informed Muslim postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam
| >in response to the question and statement:
| >>From: [email protected] (GSimp95605 )
...
| >>What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| >>went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| >>And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
| >>heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
| >>that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
|
| <stuff deleted...>
Well, you report the insubstantial, and then delete the major point! What
do we say about that? Let me add the important bit. Yes, I displayed the
whole of Gilberto's posting on the page, but the relevant part was:
To the best of my knowledge, he's not Muslim (allahu alim)
Salam
GIlberto
That is why I called him "informed". His "best knowledge" was true.
He also reported what he heard that others have said, how this rumor might
have started. So what?
| Now compare the above with the following:
Indeed do compare.
| >In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr.
| > Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.
| >>
| >> NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
| >> LEBANON, OHIO 45036
| >>
| >> July 14,1983
| >>
| <stuff deleted...>
| >>
| >>Dear Mr. Parshall:
| >>
| <stuff deleted...>
| >>The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
| ^^^^^^^
| >>the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| >>untrue.
|
| Mr. Katz makes Gilberto ([email protected] ->Gilberto) an informed poster
| but forgot to notice that Gilberto's info contradicts with what Neil's
| letter stated.
If one has nothing substantial to complain about there is always the
opportunity to invent something, right? Guess what, even if you find
that something contradicts, this still doesn't make Neil Armstrong a
Muslim.
But note the following: The contradiction is not in the things I
reported as being true, but the contradiction is between Gilberto's
claims and Neil Armstrong's disclaimer. Maybe I should have called
Gilberto SEMI-informed instead of informed? Why does everything have
to be so complicated?
| Neil flatly denied about hearing ahzan _anywhere_.
Okay Mr. Picky, I can be pedantic too. Mr. Armstrong said "AND" in
the above statement, right? The whole point of Gilberto was that he
supposedly heard the adhan sound on the moon _AND_ in Egypt, recognizing
it as the same he heard on the moon which then turned him into a Muslim.
He denied to hear it "on the Moon AND elsewhere". He did not deny to
have heard it in some country on this planet. The important piece is
the "AND". [It would be rather strange, if he had said that he has never
heard it at all, since anybody who has a movie on Arabia has probably
heard it, and definitely anybody visiting an Islamic country at any time
of life.]
Using simple logical thinking even your forced contradiction evaportes
into nothingness.
| I am now
| curious as to what the actual hoax was (nice story? ) ! Can someone in Egypt,
| Malaysia, Indonesia (who have been particularly blamed for spreading the
| hoax) or elsewhere dig into old newspapers and let us know what nice story
| was made up at that time?
This is a question I would also be most interested to get some solid
information on. Thank you for asking and please let me know if anybody
emails you with information.
Nice tidbit on the "man" or "a man" :- ) If you have a reference on
this, I would even like to include this.
Thanks again for reading my pages as well as recommending them with
your posting. :- )
Warm regards,
Jochen Katz
| Peace,
| Abdullah Amin ([email protected] )
| Dhaka, Bangladesh
|
| P.S. My ISP does not get usenet feed; so if you want to reply to me, please
| use my e-address.
How then did you know that this was currently a newsgroup discussion?
Anyway, I will also send this to you via email as requested.
3. AbdulraHman Lomax Jan 21 1997, 3:00 pm
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From: [email protected] (AbdulraHman Lomax) - Find messages by this author
Date: 1997/01/21
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong Hoax [Revisited]
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as-salamu 'alaykum.
"Abdullah A. Amin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>...I myself have looked into the Neil Armstrong hoax, and found few
>anomalies.
I think that Br. Abdullah meant to write "a few anomalies." By
omitting the indefinite article, he implied that anomalies were rare.
Anyway, the "anomalies" he found were mostly caused by the fact that
there are many rumors circulating about Armstrong, and many different
denials have been issued by various agencies associated with
Armstrong. Some of the rumors say one thing, others say other things.
It is not like there is some official "Islamic rumor organization"
which produces a definitive text of the rumor. And the denials
themselves become rumors, and one thing we know about rumors: the text
of a rumor is plastic, it shifts.
But what is clear through it all is that (1) Armstrong did not hear
the adhan on the moon -- though such a thing would not be impossible,
nor even a miracle, since he might pick up a radio broadcast -- and
(2) he did not accept Islam.
As Muslims, we should look carefully at how these rumors propagate.
They become widespread because Muslims are quite ready and willing to
believe and to repeat stories which confirm our beliefs. I've been
told the Armstrong story by Muslims who apparently did not even
suspect that it was false.
Here's another one I heard. I seriously doubt that it is true.
A group of Tablighis were on an airplane. It was time for prayer, so
they asked for -- and received -- permission to make salat in the
aisle of the plane. Everyone on the plane accepted Islam.
This story was told to me as part of an explanation why the Tablighi
Jama'at does not focus their da'wa on non-Muslims. They claim that if
they did, so many people would accept Islam that there would not be
enough people to teach them how to pray and so forth.
There are consequences to this position which I am afraid my tablighi
brothers do not think through....
AbdulraHman Lomax
[email protected]
P.O. Box 5123
Asheville, NC 28813
4. Abdullah Amin Jan 21 1997, 3:00 pm
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From: Abdullah Amin <[email protected]> - Find messages by this author
Date: 1997/01/21
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong Hoax [Revisited]
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At 01:26 AM 1/20/97 -0500, Jochen Katz wrote:
>"... and found few anomalies" in normal English usage is a compliment, i.e.
>you found basically none. But I have the feeling you meant "... and found a
>few anomalies", i.e. a number of them since you then go one to highlight
^^^
>one item you find to be an anomaly.
"Okay Mr. Picky, I can be pedantic too." Are we even now? Bad start, indeed !
>| >>From: [email protected] (GSimp95605 )
>|
>| >>What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
>| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>| >>went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
>| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>| >>And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
>| >>heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
>| >>that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
>|
>| <stuff deleted...>
>Well, you report the insubstantial, and then delete the major point!
And that was for good reason. I never intended to argue the fact (major
point) that Neil is NOT a Muslim. That issue was beaten to death few years
ago on sri. Unfortunately, you missed even my "insubstantial" point. Putting
your words back into your mouth, "What do we say about that?" Answer: Tunnel
Vision. My intention was to show how facts become twisted (or hoaxes become
"hoaxier" => snowball effect) as words travel from mouth to mouth. What
intrigued me (after forgetting about Gilberto's version) were the two
different versions regarding the circumstances around "hearing the adzan"
and "conversion to Islam".
>In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr.
> Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.
>The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
> ^^^^^^^
>the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all untrue.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and
> consulates in the Islamic world:
>1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
>BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
>EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
>ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>THE MOON IN 1969.
>Guess what, even if you find that something contradicts, this still doesn't
make Neil >Armstrong a Muslim.
Was I arguing about that? Here again, you expose your tunnel vision problem.
Personally, it matters very little (if anything at all) to me whether Neil,
Bucaille, Prince Charles or even Jochen Katz for that matter become Muslim
or not. In this kind of scenario, I prefer quality, not quantity (numbers).
>He denied to hear it "on the Moon AND elsewhere". He did not deny to
>have heard it in some country on this planet.
That is just your guess as far as the explanation of "elsewhere" is
concerned. Neil can clarify for sure as to what he meant by that. Again,
putting your words into your mouth, "Using simple logical thinking" we find
that Neil did not explicitly say he heard adzan "in some country on this
planet." I stand by my case.
>Nice tidbit on the "man" or "a man" :- ) If you have a reference on
>this, I would even like to include this.
But that would be "insubstantial" and/or irrelevant to what the major point
is; Hence, the inclusion won't make the "major point" stronger.
BTW, you may be glad to know that based on the information (major point) you
preseneted in your web page, I already submitted an article for publication
in the most widely circulated newspaper in Bangladesh. I hope it would be
published soon, and people will get their facts straight. Thanks for your
hard work !
>Warm regards,
>Jochen Katz
Warmer regards,
Abdullah Amin
>| P.S. My ISP does not get usenet feed; so if you want to reply to me, please
>| use my e-address.
>How then did you know that this was currently a newsgroup discussion?
Being crippled with an e-mail-only account, every now and then I retrieve
usenet articles and web documents via e-mail-to-www gateways, and post
articles via e-mail-to-usenet gateways. Gotcha ?
5. Milind Saraph Jan 22 1997, 3:00 pm
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Date: 1997/01/22
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[email protected] (AbdulraHman Lomax) writes:
>As Muslims, we should look carefully at how these rumors propagate.
>They become widespread because Muslims are quite ready and willing to
>believe and to repeat stories which confirm our beliefs.
I think it is a human failing. The standards for stories which confirm
one's belief are less stringent than those stories which challenge one's
beliefs. In psychobabble it is called "selective reinforcement" (I think
:-) ).
-- Milind Saraph
6. Jim Beaven Jan 22 1997, 3:00 pm
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Date: 1997/01/22
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Assalam Alaikum Everyone,
Bismi Allah Arrahman Arrahim,
I remember when I use to be a CHristian and debated with Muslims.
Serveral times this issue of Mr Armstrong becoming a Muslim was
brought up to me. I just said oh really how nice. I never even
recorded them in my debates with Muslims because it does not matter.
If Mr. Armstrong wants to become a Muslim or not, if he has become a
Muslim or not is of no importance on if I will become a Muslim.
Now I would liesten to some of the Black American brothers tell me how
and why they embraced Islam. And would even listen to stories about
people they knew that embraced Islam. For I wanted to know their point
of view on Islam and why the left the CHristian faith.
But most people will not be turned to the truth just because some famous
person became a Muslim. Plus we must always be careful how we put things
forward for this deal with Mr Armstrong will be used by anti Islamic
forces i.e. Mr Kratz (sorry if I misspelled your name).
All you have to do is show the truth, talk to them about it, live it
and if Allah unseals their heart alhamdulillah, if not you did what you
could.
your brother in Islam
Jamal-al-Din Beaven (Al-Ameriki)
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1. Abdullah A. Amin Jan 20 1997, 3:00 pm
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Date: 1997/01/20
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Assalamu Alaikum.
It so looks like some brothers have started to look into the hoaxes J. Katz
(http://www.math.gatech.edu/~jkatz/Islam/Hoaxes/) has put together in his
web page, and has commenced to pick the inconsistencies in some of his
arguments. I myself have looked into the Neil Armstrong hoax, and found few
anomalies.
J. Katz states
>Here two informed Muslim postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam
>in response to the question and statement:
>>From: [email protected] (GSimp95605 )
>>Date: 1996/08/23
>>Message-Id:
>>Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
>Asalam-alaikum,
>>What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
>>heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
>>that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
<stuff deleted...>
Now compare the above with the following:
>In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr.
> Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.
>> NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
>> LEBANON, OHIO 45036
>> July 14,1983
<stuff deleted...>
>>Dear Mr. Parshall:
<stuff deleted...>
>>The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
^^^^^^^
>>the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>untrue.
Mr. Katz makes Gilberto ([email protected] ->Gilberto ) an informed poster
but forgot to notice that Gilberto's info contradicts with what Neil's
letter stated. Neil flatly denied about hearing ahzan _anywhere_. I am now
curious as to what the actual hoax was (nice story? ) ! Can someone in Egypt,
Malaysia, Indonesia (who have been particularly blamed for spreading the
hoax ) or elsewhere dig into old newspapers and let us know what nice story
was made up at that time?
Now to add more spice to the hoax:
>A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and
> consulates in the Islamic world:
<stuff deleted...>
>1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
>BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
>EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
>ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>THE MOON IN 1969.
Now it becomes apparent that U.S. State Dept. itself dragged the hoax one
step further - a hoax on the top of another hoax (hoaxier ??) by stating
that allegation was about the conversion taking place right on the surface
of the moon ! Or is that poorly constructed English ? Well, I guess I have
to take a milder approach here since Neil himself succumbed to mistake when
he made that historical statement "One small step for man, one giant leap
for mankind". I recall reading an article in Reader's Digest which discussed
about the mistake made by Neil. Funny thing is that Neil's statement was
quoted (after correcting the grammatical mistake made by Neil) as "One small
step for a man, one giant leap for mankind" by some leading newspapers while
others reported exactly what Neil uttered. Good God, we don't have another
hoax on this topic. {I don't recall if he said "That's one...". Sorry, I
don't have any reference to look up right now }.
'nuff said.
Peace,
Abdullah Amin ([email protected] )
Dhaka, Bangladesh
P.S. My ISP does not get usenet feed; so if you want to reply to me, please
use my e-address.
2. Jochen Katz Jan 20 1997, 3:00 pm
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From: Jochen Katz <[email protected]> - Find messages by this author
Date: 1997/01/20
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong Hoax [Revisited]
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In article <[email protected]>,
"Abdullah A. Amin" <[email protected]> writes:
| Assalamu Alaikum.
And peace be to you.
| It so looks like some brothers have started to look into the hoaxes J. Katz
| (http://www.math.gatech.edu/~jkatz/Islam/Hoaxes/) has put together in his
| web page, and has commenced to pick the inconsistencies in some of his
| arguments. I myself have looked into the Neil Armstrong hoax, and found few
| anomalies.
I am always glad to observe people take my web site seriously. ;- )
"... and found few anomalies" in normal English usage is a compliment, i.e.
you found basically none. But I have the feeling you meant "... and found a
few anomalies", i.e. a number of them since you then go one to highlight
one item you find to be an anomaly.
| J. Katz states
|
| >Here two informed Muslim postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam
| >in response to the question and statement:
| >>From: [email protected] (GSimp95605 )
...
| >>What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| >>went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| >>And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
| >>heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
| >>that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
|
| <stuff deleted...>
Well, you report the insubstantial, and then delete the major point! What
do we say about that? Let me add the important bit. Yes, I displayed the
whole of Gilberto's posting on the page, but the relevant part was:
To the best of my knowledge, he's not Muslim (allahu alim)
Salam
GIlberto
That is why I called him "informed". His "best knowledge" was true.
He also reported what he heard that others have said, how this rumor might
have started. So what?
| Now compare the above with the following:
Indeed do compare.
| >In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr.
| > Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.
| >>
| >> NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
| >> LEBANON, OHIO 45036
| >>
| >> July 14,1983
| >>
| <stuff deleted...>
| >>
| >>Dear Mr. Parshall:
| >>
| <stuff deleted...>
| >>The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
| ^^^^^^^
| >>the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| >>untrue.
|
| Mr. Katz makes Gilberto ([email protected] ->Gilberto) an informed poster
| but forgot to notice that Gilberto's info contradicts with what Neil's
| letter stated.
If one has nothing substantial to complain about there is always the
opportunity to invent something, right? Guess what, even if you find
that something contradicts, this still doesn't make Neil Armstrong a
Muslim.
But note the following: The contradiction is not in the things I
reported as being true, but the contradiction is between Gilberto's
claims and Neil Armstrong's disclaimer. Maybe I should have called
Gilberto SEMI-informed instead of informed? Why does everything have
to be so complicated?
| Neil flatly denied about hearing ahzan _anywhere_.
Okay Mr. Picky, I can be pedantic too. Mr. Armstrong said "AND" in
the above statement, right? The whole point of Gilberto was that he
supposedly heard the adhan sound on the moon _AND_ in Egypt, recognizing
it as the same he heard on the moon which then turned him into a Muslim.
He denied to hear it "on the Moon AND elsewhere". He did not deny to
have heard it in some country on this planet. The important piece is
the "AND". [It would be rather strange, if he had said that he has never
heard it at all, since anybody who has a movie on Arabia has probably
heard it, and definitely anybody visiting an Islamic country at any time
of life.]
Using simple logical thinking even your forced contradiction evaportes
into nothingness.
| I am now
| curious as to what the actual hoax was (nice story? ) ! Can someone in Egypt,
| Malaysia, Indonesia (who have been particularly blamed for spreading the
| hoax) or elsewhere dig into old newspapers and let us know what nice story
| was made up at that time?
This is a question I would also be most interested to get some solid
information on. Thank you for asking and please let me know if anybody
emails you with information.
Nice tidbit on the "man" or "a man" :- ) If you have a reference on
this, I would even like to include this.
Thanks again for reading my pages as well as recommending them with
your posting. :- )
Warm regards,
Jochen Katz
| Peace,
| Abdullah Amin ([email protected] )
| Dhaka, Bangladesh
|
| P.S. My ISP does not get usenet feed; so if you want to reply to me, please
| use my e-address.
How then did you know that this was currently a newsgroup discussion?
Anyway, I will also send this to you via email as requested.
3. AbdulraHman Lomax Jan 21 1997, 3:00 pm
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From: [email protected] (AbdulraHman Lomax) - Find messages by this author
Date: 1997/01/21
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong Hoax [Revisited]
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as-salamu 'alaykum.
"Abdullah A. Amin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>...I myself have looked into the Neil Armstrong hoax, and found few
>anomalies.
I think that Br. Abdullah meant to write "a few anomalies." By
omitting the indefinite article, he implied that anomalies were rare.
Anyway, the "anomalies" he found were mostly caused by the fact that
there are many rumors circulating about Armstrong, and many different
denials have been issued by various agencies associated with
Armstrong. Some of the rumors say one thing, others say other things.
It is not like there is some official "Islamic rumor organization"
which produces a definitive text of the rumor. And the denials
themselves become rumors, and one thing we know about rumors: the text
of a rumor is plastic, it shifts.
But what is clear through it all is that (1) Armstrong did not hear
the adhan on the moon -- though such a thing would not be impossible,
nor even a miracle, since he might pick up a radio broadcast -- and
(2) he did not accept Islam.
As Muslims, we should look carefully at how these rumors propagate.
They become widespread because Muslims are quite ready and willing to
believe and to repeat stories which confirm our beliefs. I've been
told the Armstrong story by Muslims who apparently did not even
suspect that it was false.
Here's another one I heard. I seriously doubt that it is true.
A group of Tablighis were on an airplane. It was time for prayer, so
they asked for -- and received -- permission to make salat in the
aisle of the plane. Everyone on the plane accepted Islam.
This story was told to me as part of an explanation why the Tablighi
Jama'at does not focus their da'wa on non-Muslims. They claim that if
they did, so many people would accept Islam that there would not be
enough people to teach them how to pray and so forth.
There are consequences to this position which I am afraid my tablighi
brothers do not think through....
AbdulraHman Lomax
[email protected]
P.O. Box 5123
Asheville, NC 28813
4. Abdullah Amin Jan 21 1997, 3:00 pm
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From: Abdullah Amin <[email protected]> - Find messages by this author
Date: 1997/01/21
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong Hoax [Revisited]
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At 01:26 AM 1/20/97 -0500, Jochen Katz wrote:
>"... and found few anomalies" in normal English usage is a compliment, i.e.
>you found basically none. But I have the feeling you meant "... and found a
>few anomalies", i.e. a number of them since you then go one to highlight
^^^
>one item you find to be an anomaly.
"Okay Mr. Picky, I can be pedantic too." Are we even now? Bad start, indeed !
>| >>From: [email protected] (GSimp95605 )
>|
>| >>What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
>| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>| >>went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
>| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>| >>And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
>| >>heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
>| >>that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
>|
>| <stuff deleted...>
>Well, you report the insubstantial, and then delete the major point!
And that was for good reason. I never intended to argue the fact (major
point) that Neil is NOT a Muslim. That issue was beaten to death few years
ago on sri. Unfortunately, you missed even my "insubstantial" point. Putting
your words back into your mouth, "What do we say about that?" Answer: Tunnel
Vision. My intention was to show how facts become twisted (or hoaxes become
"hoaxier" => snowball effect) as words travel from mouth to mouth. What
intrigued me (after forgetting about Gilberto's version) were the two
different versions regarding the circumstances around "hearing the adzan"
and "conversion to Islam".
>In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr.
> Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.
>The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
> ^^^^^^^
>the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all untrue.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and
> consulates in the Islamic world:
>1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
>BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
>EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
>ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>THE MOON IN 1969.
>Guess what, even if you find that something contradicts, this still doesn't
make Neil >Armstrong a Muslim.
Was I arguing about that? Here again, you expose your tunnel vision problem.
Personally, it matters very little (if anything at all) to me whether Neil,
Bucaille, Prince Charles or even Jochen Katz for that matter become Muslim
or not. In this kind of scenario, I prefer quality, not quantity (numbers).
>He denied to hear it "on the Moon AND elsewhere". He did not deny to
>have heard it in some country on this planet.
That is just your guess as far as the explanation of "elsewhere" is
concerned. Neil can clarify for sure as to what he meant by that. Again,
putting your words into your mouth, "Using simple logical thinking" we find
that Neil did not explicitly say he heard adzan "in some country on this
planet." I stand by my case.
>Nice tidbit on the "man" or "a man" :- ) If you have a reference on
>this, I would even like to include this.
But that would be "insubstantial" and/or irrelevant to what the major point
is; Hence, the inclusion won't make the "major point" stronger.
BTW, you may be glad to know that based on the information (major point) you
preseneted in your web page, I already submitted an article for publication
in the most widely circulated newspaper in Bangladesh. I hope it would be
published soon, and people will get their facts straight. Thanks for your
hard work !
>Warm regards,
>Jochen Katz
Warmer regards,
Abdullah Amin
>| P.S. My ISP does not get usenet feed; so if you want to reply to me, please
>| use my e-address.
>How then did you know that this was currently a newsgroup discussion?
Being crippled with an e-mail-only account, every now and then I retrieve
usenet articles and web documents via e-mail-to-www gateways, and post
articles via e-mail-to-usenet gateways. Gotcha ?
5. Milind Saraph Jan 22 1997, 3:00 pm
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Date: 1997/01/22
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong Hoax [Revisited]
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[email protected] (AbdulraHman Lomax) writes:
>As Muslims, we should look carefully at how these rumors propagate.
>They become widespread because Muslims are quite ready and willing to
>believe and to repeat stories which confirm our beliefs.
I think it is a human failing. The standards for stories which confirm
one's belief are less stringent than those stories which challenge one's
beliefs. In psychobabble it is called "selective reinforcement" (I think
:-) ).
-- Milind Saraph
6. Jim Beaven Jan 22 1997, 3:00 pm
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Date: 1997/01/22
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Assalam Alaikum Everyone,
Bismi Allah Arrahman Arrahim,
I remember when I use to be a CHristian and debated with Muslims.
Serveral times this issue of Mr Armstrong becoming a Muslim was
brought up to me. I just said oh really how nice. I never even
recorded them in my debates with Muslims because it does not matter.
If Mr. Armstrong wants to become a Muslim or not, if he has become a
Muslim or not is of no importance on if I will become a Muslim.
Now I would liesten to some of the Black American brothers tell me how
and why they embraced Islam. And would even listen to stories about
people they knew that embraced Islam. For I wanted to know their point
of view on Islam and why the left the CHristian faith.
But most people will not be turned to the truth just because some famous
person became a Muslim. Plus we must always be careful how we put things
forward for this deal with Mr Armstrong will be used by anti Islamic
forces i.e. Mr Kratz (sorry if I misspelled your name).
All you have to do is show the truth, talk to them about it, live it
and if Allah unseals their heart alhamdulillah, if not you did what you
could.
your brother in Islam
Jamal-al-Din Beaven (Al-Ameriki)
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yup
Yah, gw merasa kasian juga sih sama orang sama orang2 yg Iri n ga tau beritanya gitu.
tapi tentu aja karena Neil Amstrong masuk Islam.
maka media2 barat membungkam dia, jadi sampai saat ini berita tentang dia ga bakalan bisa didengar media massa dunia yg rata2 di kuasai oleh kristen dan israel.
mereka nggak mau ngakuin kebenaran yg sesungguhnya.
orang Kitab2 mereka juga kitab tipuan dan bo'ongan sih.
jadi sukanya ya menipu dan berbohong. sedangkan kebenaran yang sesungguhnya mereka tutup2i. karena memang mereka pemalas.
tapi tentu aja karena Neil Amstrong masuk Islam.
maka media2 barat membungkam dia, jadi sampai saat ini berita tentang dia ga bakalan bisa didengar media massa dunia yg rata2 di kuasai oleh kristen dan israel.
mereka nggak mau ngakuin kebenaran yg sesungguhnya.
orang Kitab2 mereka juga kitab tipuan dan bo'ongan sih.
jadi sukanya ya menipu dan berbohong. sedangkan kebenaran yang sesungguhnya mereka tutup2i. karena memang mereka pemalas.
gua mah kasihan sama lu muslim sesat.
sudah jelas-jelas neil armstrong mengeluarkan surat penyangkalan, masih juga berkeras.
http://www.indonesia.faithfreedom.org/f ... ght=#47596
sudah baca belum sumber-sumber islam sendiri yang juga menyangkal neil armstrong masuk islam?
sudah jelas-jelas neil armstrong mengeluarkan surat penyangkalan, masih juga berkeras.
http://www.indonesia.faithfreedom.org/f ... ght=#47596
sudah baca belum sumber-sumber islam sendiri yang juga menyangkal neil armstrong masuk islam?
Re: yup
Bukti kepalsuan ALKITAB dimana? dan tau ga apa syarat dari seseorang disebut sebagai nabi?penciptabible wrote:Yah, gw merasa kasian juga sih sama orang sama orang2 yg Iri n ga tau beritanya gitu.
tapi tentu aja karena Neil Amstrong masuk Islam.
maka media2 barat membungkam dia, jadi sampai saat ini berita tentang dia ga bakalan bisa didengar media massa dunia yg rata2 di kuasai oleh kristen dan israel.
mereka nggak mau ngakuin kebenaran yg sesungguhnya.
orang Kitab2 mereka juga kitab tipuan dan bo'ongan sih.
jadi sukanya ya menipu dan berbohong. sedangkan kebenaran yang sesungguhnya mereka tutup2i. karena memang mereka pemalas.
Tolong tanggapan anda?
Neil armstrong masuk Islam. So what???
Pendaratan ke bulan itu adalah global hoax karya Amrik yang mau mengintimidasi USSR waktu dulu karena USSR sudah bisa mengorbit keliling bumi.
Gak ada yang bisa ke bulan karena radiasinya sangat berbahaya. Buktinya sekarang manusia gak ada seekor pun yang injek bulan lagi. Adanya robot pake remote.
Kalo bener si neil itu adalah muslim, harusnya lu merasa malu karena seorang muslim terlibat hoax karya Amrik.
Pendaratan ke bulan itu adalah global hoax karya Amrik yang mau mengintimidasi USSR waktu dulu karena USSR sudah bisa mengorbit keliling bumi.
Gak ada yang bisa ke bulan karena radiasinya sangat berbahaya. Buktinya sekarang manusia gak ada seekor pun yang injek bulan lagi. Adanya robot pake remote.
Kalo bener si neil itu adalah muslim, harusnya lu merasa malu karena seorang muslim terlibat hoax karya Amrik.
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hee.. CURHAT lagi ..Yah, gw merasa kasian juga sih sama orang sama orang2 yg Iri n ga tau beritanya gitu.
tapi tentu aja karena Neil Amstrong masuk Islam.
maka media2 barat membungkam dia, jadi sampai saat ini berita tentang dia ga bakalan bisa didengar media massa dunia yg rata2 di kuasai oleh kristen dan israel.
mereka nggak mau ngakuin kebenaran yg sesungguhnya.
orang Kitab2 mereka juga kitab tipuan dan bo'ongan sih.
jadi sukanya ya menipu dan berbohong. sedangkan kebenaran yang sesungguhnya mereka tutup2i. karena memang mereka pemalas.
MUSLIM disini memang kelasnya CENGENG..
jatuh2nya Kristen dan Israel disalahin lagi, memang OTAK KALIAN UDAH BUSUK.. fitnah doang melulu yg GEDE.
ente klo punya data penyangkalan mending berikan disini, jgn OM-DO.. ok ?
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MARI KITA KEMBALI KE BULLSHIT ISLAM YANG BERKATA
Neil Armstrong pindah Islam :
How Neil Armstrong "became" a Muslim
Among the many rumors circulating in the Islamic world, the claim that Neil Armstrong, the famous Astronaut, has become a Muslim seems to be one that will never die.
Hopefully, the following statement will help to put this claim at rest. Neil Armstrong participated in the Global Leadership Forum in Malaysia on 6 September 2005. The Star Malaysia, currently the most widely read English newspaper in Malaysia, took the occasion to interview him on his moon landing mission with Apollo 11. In the article, Armstrong recalls moon landing, published on 7 September 2005, both in print and online, one finds this statement:
Armstrong, 75, also denied he had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had converted to Islam.
The rest of this article, originally written in 1996 and updated a couple of times since then, documents the reasons why anyone would even ask Neil Armstrong such an odd question, and explains the necessity for clarifying this issue.
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Mid November 1996 the following report reached us:
We have a very good Islamic community radio station here in Cape Town.
The following story was told for the honest truth on our Muslim radio
the other day:
When Louis Armstrong and co. walked on the moon, they heard sounds
in a strange language they did not understand. Only later, after
returning to earth, did they realize that it was actually the azaan!
I have seen a few mosques with powerful speaker systems, but wow,
somebody down here certainly turned on the power on that day!
[Obviously the reference was supposed to be in regard to Neil Armstrong, the astronaut, not Louis Armstrong, the Jazz musician.]
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This rumor also surfaces every other month or so on the Islamic newsgroup, examples of one of the more recent appearances:
Subject: Re: NEIL ARMSTRONG Muslim?
From: "BB."
Date: 1996/08/26
Message-Id: <4vtjnd$[email protected]>
Organization: University of Canberra, Australia
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
On 20 Aug 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF IT TRUE THAT NEIL ARMSTRONG IS A MUSLIM??
Salam
i heard that when he went to the moon he heard the Athan (call for prayer)
so he heard it again on earth and he became a muslim, i read an article
that he lives in lebanon now (my country) and his neighbours say he
doesn't talk to anyone... he could have been so famous the
second man on the moon is still famous now, but neil decided to live like
this. Alah aalam (god knows). if anyone else know about him i'd like to
know more.
wassalam
Here two postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam in response to the question and statement by Muslims at least informed that it is a rumor, ... yet Gilberto reporting on some other rumor he heard on how the original rumor might have started (rumors about rumors, getting ever more complicated):
From: [email protected] (GSimp95605)
Date: 1996/08/23
Message-Id: <4vkcdj$[email protected]>
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Asalam-alaikum,
What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
To the best of my knowledge, he's not Muslim (allahu alim)
Salam
GIlberto
and
In article <50k5cg$[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mas'ud Ahmed Khan) writes:
NO, this keeps popping up time and again, from what I gather
Neil Armstrong is not and was never a Muslim, he lives in the
US and is a bit of a recluse, he occasionally lectures.
Someone told me that he explicitly denied being a Muslim and
does not know how the rumour started.
It is sad that some Muslims make up stories that have a snowball
effect and sooner or later become a "fact" that Muslims boast
about can you imagine what impression we give to those who
know about Armstrong?
wa'as-Salaam
Mas'ud
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In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr. Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.
NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
LEBANON, OHIO 45036
July 14,1983
Mr. Phil Parshall Director
Asian Research Center
International Christian
Fellowship 29524 Bobrich
Livonia, Michigan 48152
Dear Mr. Parshall:
Mr. Armstrong has asked me to reply to your letter and
to thank you for the courtesy of your inquiry.
The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
untrue.
Several publications in Malaysia, Indonesia and other
countries have published these reports without verifi-
cation. We apologize for any inconvenience that this
incompetent journalism may have caused you.
Subsequently, Mr. Armstrong agreed to participate in a
telephone interview, reiterating his reaction to these
stories. I am enclosing copies of the United States
State Department's communications prior to and after
that interview.
Sincerely
Vivian White
Administrative Aide
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Comments: In our possession is a photocopy of this letter which is identical in text to the above, except that the street address and phone number of Mr. Armstrong contained in that copy are deleted. The above also shows where this idea came from, that Mr. Armstrong supposedly lives in Lebanon. Yes, Lebanon is true, yet this "Lebanon" is not in the Middle East, but in the Midwest of the United States of America.
A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and consulates in the Islamic world:
P 04085 0Z MAR 83 ZEX
FM SECSTATE WASHD C
TO ALL DIPLOMATIC AND CONSULAR POSTS PRIORITY
BI
UNCLAS STATE 056309
FOLLOWING REPEAT SENT ACTION ALL EAST ASIAN AND
PACIFIC DIPLOMATIC POSTS DTD MAR 02.
QUOTE: UNCLAS STATE 056309
E.O. 12356: N/A
TAGS: PREL, PGOV, US, ID
SUBJECT: ALLEGED CONVERSION OF NEIL ARMSTRONG TO ISLAM
---------------------------------------------
REF: JAKARTA 3281 AND 2374 (NOT ..)
1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
THE MOON IN 1969. AS A RESULT OF SUCH REPORTS,
ARMSTRONG HAS RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS
AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, AND A FEELER FROM AT LEAST
ONE GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HIS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATION IN
ISLAMIC ACTIVITIES.
2. WHILE STRESSING HIS STRONG DESIRE NOT TO OFFEND
ANYONE OR SHOW DISRESPECT FOR ANY RELIGION, ARMSTRONG
HAS ADVISED DEPARTMENT THAT REPORTS OF HIS CONVERSION
TO ISLAM ARE INACCURATE.
3. IF POST RECEIVE QUERIES ON THIS MATTER, ARMSTRONG
REQUESTS THAT THEY POLITELY BUT FIRMLY INFORM QUERYING
PARTY THAT HE HAS NOT CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND HAS NO
CURRENT PLANS OR DESIRE TO TRAVEL OVERSEAS TO
PARTICIPATE IN ISLAMIC RELIGOUS ACTIVITIES.
Click here to view the scanned photocopy of this above note from the US State Department.
Furthermore, the following letter to the editor was printed in the Journal Arabia, The Islamic World Review, Issue June 1985/Ramadan 1405, page 5:
A MUSLIM OVER THE MOON?
Arabia is by far the superior newsmagazine regarding
what is going on in the Muslim world today. Your reporting
is extremely thorough and seeks to be as objective as
possible. Your willingness to criticise political policies
as well as religious happenings in the Muslim world is
refreshing. As an American I would feel your slant on the
West is basically fair.
It would be most helpful if you would dispel a misconception
prevalent in almost all Muslim countries. From Morocco to the
Philippines it is commonly believed that Neil Armstrong heard
the Azan on the moon, converted to Islam and is now engaged in
the full-time propagation of the Muslim faith.
The US State Department has issued a memo saying that the story
about Armstrong's conversion was untrue. The memo said "While
stressing his strong desire not so offend anyone or show
disrespect for any religion, Armstrong has advised Department
that reports of his conversion to Islam are inaccurate." The
memo further says, "if post receives queries on this matter,
Armstrong requests that they politely but firmly inform querying
party that he has not converted to Islam and has no current
plans or desires to travel overseas to participate in Islamic
religious activities."
N.B. The memo was sent to all our diplomatic and consular posts.
Dr Phil Parshall
Director, Asian Research Centre Manila, Philippines
Click here for a scanned image of this page in Arabia.
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Sadly, as documented above, this rumor still goes round and round in the Islamic world, over a decade after it has been denied over and over again. Not only in mouth to mouth propaganda but it is even spread by Muslim radio stations.
Yet even when the Muslims tell their brothers that it is a false rumor, they are not convinced, the newest newsgroup tidbit is
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong -first man on the moon!
From: Farzad <[email protected]>
Date: 1997/01/17
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
> No it is false, it is a myth spread in Muslim world. Armstrong denies
> this story. He is not Muslim ...
He perfomed prayers in Turkey in the same masjid where Malcolm X
prayed and huge crowd prayed behind him.
salaams,
Is this rumor ever going to die? My question to Farzad would be (as to all others who spread the rumor): Were you there when he prayed in this masjid? -- No? Thought so.
Response the above: [Complaint], [Response]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But never shall they be satisfied ...
Anyway, this person gives at least some references for the rumors.
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong - first man on the moon!
From: [email protected] (M Damron)
Date: 1997/02/02
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
I thought he did convert. As an American that converted to Islam I have
come across this story in both Islamic and Non-Islamic sources. Two of
these include the book A Muslim Primer by Ira Zepp and another book titled
Defenders of God.
Neil Armstrong pindah Islam :
How Neil Armstrong "became" a Muslim
Among the many rumors circulating in the Islamic world, the claim that Neil Armstrong, the famous Astronaut, has become a Muslim seems to be one that will never die.
Hopefully, the following statement will help to put this claim at rest. Neil Armstrong participated in the Global Leadership Forum in Malaysia on 6 September 2005. The Star Malaysia, currently the most widely read English newspaper in Malaysia, took the occasion to interview him on his moon landing mission with Apollo 11. In the article, Armstrong recalls moon landing, published on 7 September 2005, both in print and online, one finds this statement:
Armstrong, 75, also denied he had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had converted to Islam.
The rest of this article, originally written in 1996 and updated a couple of times since then, documents the reasons why anyone would even ask Neil Armstrong such an odd question, and explains the necessity for clarifying this issue.
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Mid November 1996 the following report reached us:
We have a very good Islamic community radio station here in Cape Town.
The following story was told for the honest truth on our Muslim radio
the other day:
When Louis Armstrong and co. walked on the moon, they heard sounds
in a strange language they did not understand. Only later, after
returning to earth, did they realize that it was actually the azaan!
I have seen a few mosques with powerful speaker systems, but wow,
somebody down here certainly turned on the power on that day!
[Obviously the reference was supposed to be in regard to Neil Armstrong, the astronaut, not Louis Armstrong, the Jazz musician.]
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This rumor also surfaces every other month or so on the Islamic newsgroup, examples of one of the more recent appearances:
Subject: Re: NEIL ARMSTRONG Muslim?
From: "BB."
Date: 1996/08/26
Message-Id: <4vtjnd$[email protected]>
Organization: University of Canberra, Australia
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
On 20 Aug 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF IT TRUE THAT NEIL ARMSTRONG IS A MUSLIM??
Salam
i heard that when he went to the moon he heard the Athan (call for prayer)
so he heard it again on earth and he became a muslim, i read an article
that he lives in lebanon now (my country) and his neighbours say he
doesn't talk to anyone... he could have been so famous the
second man on the moon is still famous now, but neil decided to live like
this. Alah aalam (god knows). if anyone else know about him i'd like to
know more.
wassalam
Here two postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam in response to the question and statement by Muslims at least informed that it is a rumor, ... yet Gilberto reporting on some other rumor he heard on how the original rumor might have started (rumors about rumors, getting ever more complicated):
From: [email protected] (GSimp95605)
Date: 1996/08/23
Message-Id: <4vkcdj$[email protected]>
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Asalam-alaikum,
What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
To the best of my knowledge, he's not Muslim (allahu alim)
Salam
GIlberto
and
In article <50k5cg$[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mas'ud Ahmed Khan) writes:
NO, this keeps popping up time and again, from what I gather
Neil Armstrong is not and was never a Muslim, he lives in the
US and is a bit of a recluse, he occasionally lectures.
Someone told me that he explicitly denied being a Muslim and
does not know how the rumour started.
It is sad that some Muslims make up stories that have a snowball
effect and sooner or later become a "fact" that Muslims boast
about can you imagine what impression we give to those who
know about Armstrong?
wa'as-Salaam
Mas'ud
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In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr. Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.
NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
LEBANON, OHIO 45036
July 14,1983
Mr. Phil Parshall Director
Asian Research Center
International Christian
Fellowship 29524 Bobrich
Livonia, Michigan 48152
Dear Mr. Parshall:
Mr. Armstrong has asked me to reply to your letter and
to thank you for the courtesy of your inquiry.
The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
untrue.
Several publications in Malaysia, Indonesia and other
countries have published these reports without verifi-
cation. We apologize for any inconvenience that this
incompetent journalism may have caused you.
Subsequently, Mr. Armstrong agreed to participate in a
telephone interview, reiterating his reaction to these
stories. I am enclosing copies of the United States
State Department's communications prior to and after
that interview.
Sincerely
Vivian White
Administrative Aide
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Comments: In our possession is a photocopy of this letter which is identical in text to the above, except that the street address and phone number of Mr. Armstrong contained in that copy are deleted. The above also shows where this idea came from, that Mr. Armstrong supposedly lives in Lebanon. Yes, Lebanon is true, yet this "Lebanon" is not in the Middle East, but in the Midwest of the United States of America.
A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and consulates in the Islamic world:
P 04085 0Z MAR 83 ZEX
FM SECSTATE WASHD C
TO ALL DIPLOMATIC AND CONSULAR POSTS PRIORITY
BI
UNCLAS STATE 056309
FOLLOWING REPEAT SENT ACTION ALL EAST ASIAN AND
PACIFIC DIPLOMATIC POSTS DTD MAR 02.
QUOTE: UNCLAS STATE 056309
E.O. 12356: N/A
TAGS: PREL, PGOV, US, ID
SUBJECT: ALLEGED CONVERSION OF NEIL ARMSTRONG TO ISLAM
---------------------------------------------
REF: JAKARTA 3281 AND 2374 (NOT ..)
1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
THE MOON IN 1969. AS A RESULT OF SUCH REPORTS,
ARMSTRONG HAS RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS
AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, AND A FEELER FROM AT LEAST
ONE GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HIS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATION IN
ISLAMIC ACTIVITIES.
2. WHILE STRESSING HIS STRONG DESIRE NOT TO OFFEND
ANYONE OR SHOW DISRESPECT FOR ANY RELIGION, ARMSTRONG
HAS ADVISED DEPARTMENT THAT REPORTS OF HIS CONVERSION
TO ISLAM ARE INACCURATE.
3. IF POST RECEIVE QUERIES ON THIS MATTER, ARMSTRONG
REQUESTS THAT THEY POLITELY BUT FIRMLY INFORM QUERYING
PARTY THAT HE HAS NOT CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND HAS NO
CURRENT PLANS OR DESIRE TO TRAVEL OVERSEAS TO
PARTICIPATE IN ISLAMIC RELIGOUS ACTIVITIES.
Click here to view the scanned photocopy of this above note from the US State Department.
Furthermore, the following letter to the editor was printed in the Journal Arabia, The Islamic World Review, Issue June 1985/Ramadan 1405, page 5:
A MUSLIM OVER THE MOON?
Arabia is by far the superior newsmagazine regarding
what is going on in the Muslim world today. Your reporting
is extremely thorough and seeks to be as objective as
possible. Your willingness to criticise political policies
as well as religious happenings in the Muslim world is
refreshing. As an American I would feel your slant on the
West is basically fair.
It would be most helpful if you would dispel a misconception
prevalent in almost all Muslim countries. From Morocco to the
Philippines it is commonly believed that Neil Armstrong heard
the Azan on the moon, converted to Islam and is now engaged in
the full-time propagation of the Muslim faith.
The US State Department has issued a memo saying that the story
about Armstrong's conversion was untrue. The memo said "While
stressing his strong desire not so offend anyone or show
disrespect for any religion, Armstrong has advised Department
that reports of his conversion to Islam are inaccurate." The
memo further says, "if post receives queries on this matter,
Armstrong requests that they politely but firmly inform querying
party that he has not converted to Islam and has no current
plans or desires to travel overseas to participate in Islamic
religious activities."
N.B. The memo was sent to all our diplomatic and consular posts.
Dr Phil Parshall
Director, Asian Research Centre Manila, Philippines
Click here for a scanned image of this page in Arabia.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sadly, as documented above, this rumor still goes round and round in the Islamic world, over a decade after it has been denied over and over again. Not only in mouth to mouth propaganda but it is even spread by Muslim radio stations.
Yet even when the Muslims tell their brothers that it is a false rumor, they are not convinced, the newest newsgroup tidbit is
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong -first man on the moon!
From: Farzad <[email protected]>
Date: 1997/01/17
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
> No it is false, it is a myth spread in Muslim world. Armstrong denies
> this story. He is not Muslim ...
He perfomed prayers in Turkey in the same masjid where Malcolm X
prayed and huge crowd prayed behind him.
salaams,
Is this rumor ever going to die? My question to Farzad would be (as to all others who spread the rumor): Were you there when he prayed in this masjid? -- No? Thought so.
Response the above: [Complaint], [Response]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But never shall they be satisfied ...
Anyway, this person gives at least some references for the rumors.
Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong - first man on the moon!
From: [email protected] (M Damron)
Date: 1997/02/02
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
I thought he did convert. As an American that converted to Islam I have
come across this story in both Islamic and Non-Islamic sources. Two of
these include the book A Muslim Primer by Ira Zepp and another book titled
Defenders of God.
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dreamtheater
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Re: yup
lho... srimulat nongol disini juga toh.. hohohohoho.. pokoknya semua islam, mau manusia, babi, kucing yang ngerti ketauhitan Auwlo = Islam, jadi sumanto, dukun As, Amrozi, robot gedek, idi amin, yang bejat2, pemerkosa, pembunuh semua adalah Islam! bener2 lutju!penciptabible wrote:Yah, gw merasa kasian juga sih sama orang sama orang2 yg Iri n ga tau beritanya gitu.
tapi tentu aja karena Neil Amstrong masuk Islam.
maka media2 barat membungkam dia, jadi sampai saat ini berita tentang dia ga bakalan bisa didengar media massa dunia yg rata2 di kuasai oleh kristen dan israel.
mereka nggak mau ngakuin kebenaran yg sesungguhnya.
orang Kitab2 mereka juga kitab tipuan dan bo'ongan sih.
jadi sukanya ya menipu dan berbohong. sedangkan kebenaran yang sesungguhnya mereka tutup2i. karena memang mereka pemalas.
Ya ampuuun...! Soal ini masih dibahas dari jaman Musa sampe sekarang?
Udah jelas banget Neil Amstrong yg katanya masuk Islam itu cuman hoax...sampe bilang dibungkam segala...ujubilah! Ngapain dibungkam...orang kita mah nggak sama dgn kalian spt kalian berusaha membungkan Abdul rahman di Afghanistan!
Coba deh kalau ada mulsim yang udah tahu itu cuman hoax, PM tuh anak kasih tahu. Ntar bikin malu kalian...wah..wah...
Udah jelas banget Neil Amstrong yg katanya masuk Islam itu cuman hoax...sampe bilang dibungkam segala...ujubilah! Ngapain dibungkam...orang kita mah nggak sama dgn kalian spt kalian berusaha membungkan Abdul rahman di Afghanistan!
Coba deh kalau ada mulsim yang udah tahu itu cuman hoax, PM tuh anak kasih tahu. Ntar bikin malu kalian...wah..wah...
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Kalo di bulan ada suara adzan mah kagak kaget..... wong Auwloh asalnya dari sana.(oot dikit)Blackangel9 wrote:duh kalian ini...
seandainya memang ada suara azan dibulan atau apapun memangnya bisa menggoyang iman kalian masing2?
intinya cukup kalian tunjukan bukti bahwa neil masuk islam atau bukti sebaliknya yaitu penyangkalannya...TITIK
ntar kemudian baru bisa bahas alasannya...
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hehehe... haji bambang gue ana ngakak... bener juga yah.. wong bulan kan tempat nya pujaan nya si mohammad gendeng, aulloh si dewa bulan, pantesan tusuk konde di masjid pasti lambang nya bulannnnbambang wrote: Kalo di bulan ada suara adzan mah kagak kaget..... wong Auwloh asalnya dari sana.(oot dikit)
Untuk Penutup Kolom Humor Islam ini maka ana mempersembahkan surat sakti ini selamat menikmati:
kalo puyeng bacanya nih terjemahannya:
A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and consulates in the Islamic world:
P 04085 0Z MAR 83 ZEX
FM SECSTATE WASHD C
TO ALL DIPLOMATIC AND CONSULAR POSTS PRIORITY
BI
UNCLAS STATE 056309
FOLLOWING REPEAT SENT ACTION ALL EAST ASIAN AND
PACIFIC DIPLOMATIC POSTS DTD MAR 02.
QUOTE: UNCLAS STATE 056309
E.O. 12356: N/A
TAGS: PREL, PGOV, US, ID
SUBJECT: ALLEGED CONVERSION OF NEIL ARMSTRONG TO ISLAM
---------------------------------------------
REF: JAKARTA 3281 AND 2374 (NOT ..)
1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
THE MOON IN 1969. AS A RESULT OF SUCH REPORTS,
ARMSTRONG HAS RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS
AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, AND A FEELER FROM AT LEAST
ONE GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HIS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATION IN
ISLAMIC ACTIVITIES.
2. WHILE STRESSING HIS STRONG DESIRE NOT TO OFFEND
ANYONE OR SHOW DISRESPECT FOR ANY RELIGION, ARMSTRONG
HAS ADVISED DEPARTMENT THAT REPORTS OF HIS CONVERSION
TO ISLAM ARE INACCURATE.
3. IF POST RECEIVE QUERIES ON THIS MATTER, ARMSTRONG
REQUESTS THAT THEY POLITELY BUT FIRMLY INFORM QUERYING
PARTY THAT HE HAS NOT CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND HAS NO
CURRENT PLANS OR DESIRE TO TRAVEL OVERSEAS TO
PARTICIPATE IN ISLAMIC RELIGOUS ACTIVITIES.
KLIK disini Untuk SITE NYA
ISLAM emang ajaran paling gendeng sejagad!!!!
[/b]
Nggak juga Sergius..emang betul die ke Bulan. Juteru yang hoax itu adalah berita yg katanya kalau perjalanan ke Bulan itu cuman buatan dan di studio.sergius wrote:Neil Armstrong denger suara azan di "bulan" karena perjalanan ke bulan adalah hoax.
Yang dia denger itu suara azan di deket2 tempat shooting dia.
Mang lu pade kirain alien Mars pada shalat?
Berita itu cuman dibuat mereka sekelompok skeptik yang anti amrik..biasanya mereka kaum humanis.
Nah yang pasti, tidak ada suara yang bisa didengar di bulan (kecuali elo pake transmisi radio yang langsung dipasang dikuping en ade mixnye..kayak kalau chatting pake voice):
"..ATMOSPHERE
The moon has no atmosphere. On the moon, the sky is always appears dark, even on the bright side (because there is no atmosphere). Also, since sound waves travel through air, the moon is silent; there can be no sound transmission on the moon...."
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjec ... nomy/moon/