Noemoet apa kamu enggak mengikuti keterangan Yabedabedoo dari Muslim yang sangat sederhana dan singkat yang mudah dimengerti.....dimana juga saya telah menjelaskan dengan detail ..sejarah penulisan Hadis ternyata dimasukan ke keranjang sampah oleh Moderator....
http://www.indonesia.faithfreedom.org/f ... php?t=9113 (Histori kompilasi penulisan Hadis2)
Maka dari itu apabila ditanggapi sama aja kita berdebat dengan MODERATOR yang tidak netral oleh karena
REBECA ITU ADALAH MODERATOR DIBELAKANG LAYAR YANG MERANGKAP AUTHOR DAN NETTER.....
yabedabedoo wrote:logika sederhana muslim:
1. hadiths bisa dirubah2 manusia sama spt bible. hanya Quran saja yg tetap asli.
2. muslim lebih utamakan Quran dan dijadikan sandaran yg benar.
3. yg kontradiksi dgn Quran, muslim tidak bisa menerimanya.
4. Quran menegaskan semua manusia2 pilihan tuhan (nabi) punya akhlak yg baik2 kerana itu mereka dipilih untuk memimpin.
logika sederhana : kalo seorang pemimpin punya akhlak buruk, tidak mungkin manusia dapat menerimanya sbg pemimpin!
Keterangan tsb. diatas adalah keterangan Muslim yang sederhana yang tidak berpihak pada satu golongan apapun Shiah maupun Sunni untuk mendapatkan Unity of Islam dan mengambil kesimpulan bersama agar mengutamakan Al-Quran sebagai sandaran yang benar. Dengan dasar mencari persamaan hadis2 dari pendapat dari setiap kelompok, karena apabila makin dalam sekian banyaknya buku2 Hadis2 dipelajari makin mudah manusia menjurus kedalam kesesatan, dimana kehidupan ini tidak hanya semata mata untuk akhirat saja tapi harus bisa mengimbangi dengan kehidupan di dunia, dalam hubungan kepada Allah SWT dan juga pada umat Manusia dan Alamnya.
Umat Islam yang ada disini juga terdiri dari beberapa pemahaman dengan penjelasan secara singkat dari Shiah , Sunni dan pihak Netral, makanya dari itu meragukan Hadis2 yang ditulis oleh Rebeca yang kontradiksi dengan Al-Quran dengan keterangan sbb.:
Last Sermon dari Dakwah Nabi Muhammad SAW.
Shiites changed this version of the Sermon to read, the book of Allah and my family, while the Sunnites changed it to read, the Book of Allah and my Sunnah. Only the version that talks about QURAN ALONE is the only one that does not contradict the QURAN and does not have any political motive behind it. It is the version ignored by the sects of the Sunnites and Shiites because it does not support their political agenda.}
{Here are the references to the three versions of the Sermon
1) I leave with you Quran and Sunnah, Muwatta, 46/3
2) I leave with you Quran and Ahl al-bayt , Muslim 44/4, Nu2408; ibn hanbal 4/366; darimi 23/1, nu 3319.
3) I leave for you the Quran alone you shall uphold it.
Muslim 15/19, nu 1218; ibn Majah 25/84, Abu dawud 11/56.
See Sahih Muslim, Book of Hajj, Book 7 , Number 2803:
http://www.iiu.edu.my/deed/hadith/muslim/007_smt.html}
O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right, then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with anyone of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.
Penjelasan dari Kaum Shiah
HADIS-HADIS SHAHIH YANG MEWAJIBKAN IKUT AHLUL BAIT
1. HADIS TSAQALAIN
Bersabda Rasulullah SAWW: "Wahai manusia, telah kutinggalkan kepada kalian sesuatu yang jika kalian berpegang padanya, maka kalian tidak akan tersesaf selama-lamanya: Kitab Allah dan itrah ahlu baitku."
Sabdanya lagi: "Utusan Tuhanku tidak lama lagi akan datang, dan aku segera menyahutinya. Sungguh, kutinggalkan kepada kalian dua peninggalan yang berat (Tsaqalain): pertama Kitab Allah. Di dalamnya ada petunjuk dan cahaya. Kedua: ahlu baitku. Aku ingatkan kalian kepada Allah tentang ahlu baitku ini, aku ingatkan kalian kepada Allah tentang ahlu baitku ini."
Jika kita renungkan makna hadis mulia yang diriwayatkan oleh buku-buku hadis shohih Ahlu Sunnah wal Jamaah ini, maka kita dapati bahwa hanya Syi'ah saja yang mengikuti Tsaqalain ini: Kitab Allah dan keluarga Nabi yang suci. Semen-tara Ahlu Sunnah ikut kata-kata Umar: "Cukup bagi kita Kitab Allah saja".
Oh, alangkah bahagianya jika mereka benar-benar ikut Kitab Allah, tanpa menakwilkannya mengikut hawa nafsu mereka. Jika Umar sendiri tidak paham apa makna Kalalah, tidak tahu ayat tayammum dan berbagai hukum-hukum yang lain, maka bagaimana mereka yang datang kemudian lalu mentaklidnya tanpa berijtihad, atau berijtihad dengan pandangannya semata-mata di dalam nas-nas Qurani.
Mereka tentu akan menjawabku dengan suatu hadis yang diriwayatkan di sisi mereka: "Kutinggalkan kepada kalian Kitab Allah dan Sunnahku" 91
Hadis ini kalaulah shahih dari segi sanadnya, maka ia menyirat makna hadis Tsaqalain di atas di mana kaum muslimin diperintahkan untuk merujuk kepada Ahlu Bait yang mengajarkan sunnah, atau meriwayatkan hadis-hadis yang shahih, mengingat mereka adalah orang-orang suci dari segala sifat dusta dan Allah telah mensucikan mereka dengan ayat Tathir-Nya. Tambahan lagi agar mereka menafsirkan kepada kalian makna-makna ayat dan maksud-maksudnya, mengingat kitab Allah semata-mata tidak cukup sebagai bimbingan. Betapa banyak golongan yang sesat berdalil dengan kitab Allah. Sebagaimana juga sabda Nabi SAWW:" Berapa banyak pembaca AlQuran sementara AlQuran sendiri melaknatnya." Kitab Allah bersifat diam dan membawa berbagai kemungkinan tafsiran. Di dalamnya ada yang mutasyabih dan ada juga yang muhkamat. Untuk memahaminya mesti merujuk kepada orang-orang yang rusukh—ikut istilah AlQuran—atau yang sangat dalam ilmunya, dan ikut bimbingan Ahlu Bait Nabi seperti yang ada di dalam hadis-hadis Nabi SAWW.
Kita juga menyaksikan di dalam sejumlah kitab hadis shahih bahwa Rasul pernah melarang mereka menuliskan sunnahnya agar kelak tidak bercampur dengan ayat-ayat AlQiiran. Demikianlah apa yang dilakukan oleh Abu Bakar dan Umar ketika mereka memerintah. Dengan demikian kata-kata "Kutinggalkan kepada kalian Sunnahku..." tidak mempunyai landasan yang kuat lagi.
PENJELASAN NETRAL
Hadith to Explain the Quran!
Some say we need the hadith to explain the Quran because the Quran is too difficult to understand.
Why do people who find it difficult to understand a single volume of God's revelation feel it necessary to refer to 50 volumes of hadith books for clarification! Would God reveal a message so difficult to understand, yet expect people to follow it? This does not make sense. Furthermore, God tells us in the Quran many times: "we made the Quran easy to learn, does any of you wish to learn?" (54:17, 22, 32, 40) Doesn't God know what He is talking about? Doesn't He know His creatures' abilities?
It is almost impossible for anyone to go through all the books of hadith without getting confused and totally lost, especially if the person wants to examine what each different sect has to offer. That's why the so-called Islamic universities offer academic degrees in studying hadith to raise "learned men" of the religion. These students literally waste their time to learn all the details of living their lives in accordance with the supposed sayings and deeds of the prophet.
The religious rules and regulations based on such innovations contain and cover literally every aspect of life from walking, eating, laughing, sleeping?almost anything one can think of. The rules such as how to use the bathroom and what to do in there! The details are too gross and shocking to mention.
Appalling Hadiths
There are even grosser sayings and deeds attributed to the prophet regarding his sex life, preferences and sexual de-sires. Didn't these so called narrators have anything else to do but peek in the Prophet's private life? How could such perverse narrators be considered reliable sources of information? These are the type of people who produced such blasphemous and incredible lies against a prophet of God! More incredible is the hypocrisy of the religious "experts" who supposedly follow these lies out of love and respect for the prophet!
There are also many silly things in the books of hadith such as whether one should drink a glass of water standing or sitting? Why should anyone care? Why are these kinds of irrelevant details important to some people? Because these people are completely ignorant about the essence of the religion of submission, and thus they think the religion is a bunch of rules and regulations on the petty details of life. They make the religion difficult for themselves while being proud of having difficulties and misery as part of their devotion to their "religion." Which religion or god are they devoting themselves to? It cannot be the same One who clearly stated in the Quran that He made the religion easy for us, that He did not reveal the Quran to make things difficult for us (20:2).
Insult to Prophet Muhammad
Indeed, the hadith books are full of contradictions, subtle or clear insults and blasphemies to Almighty God as well as the prophet himself. What kind of a messenger would Muhammad be if he did or said some of the things that were attributed to him? Muhammad lived by the Quran and he was an example for us. Anyone who followed the Quran which came through his mouth would not utter such blasphemous or ridiculous sayings. Such sayings, of course, cannot be but plain lies and conjecture.
Would Muhammad ever blaspheme against God saying that God created the heavens and the earth for his sake, and that God's throne was made up of his light? Would the prophet ever ask people to praise himself, instead of praising God, the Almighty, when the Quran clearly says that all praises belong to God? Never, ever. This is clearly stated in the following verse:
Never would a human being whom GOD blessed with the scripture and prophethood say to the people, "Idolize me beside GOD." Instead, (he would say), "Devote yourselves absolutely to your Lord alone," according to the scripture you preach and the teachings you learn. [3:79]
God Does Not Run Out of Words
If God wanted to be more specific about how we must live our lives, He could have sent down volumes and volumes of revelations on how we should sleep, how we should cook, eat or drink, and which dress we should wear and so on. He surely tells us that if the oceans were ink, and the trees were made into pens, He would not run out of words (31:27). But it is God's mercy that He wants us to follow only what He specified in His revelations, and use our common sense, knowledge and wisdom for the rest of the details of life. However people insist on making their lives miserable as their so-called religious leaders and "learned" scholars shackle them with satanic teachings and innovations.
Hadith Exposed in the Quran
God condemns the hadith by name in the Quran, and informs us that it is a blasphemous fabrication (45:6-7). He says that the Quran is one consistent source since it's His Word. There is no contradiction in it. If it were from other than God, as hadith books are, they would have found in it numerous contradictions (4:82).
Hadiths can be useful for historical perspective, but they should not be used for establishing religious practices. Doing so does not mean one dislikes or does not obey the prophet Muhammad. On the contrary, it indicates that he or she respects him and God's revelations that came through his mouth. After all it is God we are all supposed to please. The Quran teaches us that when the judgment day comes and everything is brought forward, the prophet will be disappointed by what has been done to the message that he delivered. He will say, "my people have deserted the Quran" (25:30). Therefore, following or upholding baseless hadiths is something neither God nor His messengers want us to do:
Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of GOD without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.[31:6]
As a matter of fact, God and His messengers want us to follow the Word of God as the only source of religious guidance, otherwise we will end up disputing and dividing ourselves (3:103). The Quran is God's word in truth and justice; a blessing and beacon for those who want to submit to the Lord of the Universe, the Almighty. It's God's commandment that we should read it from cover to cover (73:4). Are we waiting for somebody to explain God's message to us while we can read it for ourselves? Therefore, read what your Creator wants to tell you for your own sake! Read it in a language that you can understand. When God says that He made the Quran easy to learn, He means it. He is the One who controls the hearts and minds of the people and guides them accordingly (28:56). He is teacher of the Quran for those who turn to Him (55:2).
GOD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways (to Heaven and Hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for GOD's message. Such is GOD's guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills (to be guided). As for those sent astray by GOD, nothing can guide them. [39:23]
Why do they not study the Quran carefully? If it were from other than GOD, they would have found in it numerous contradictions. [4:82]
All praises be to God, Lord of the Universe.
