TINJAUAN PEDOFILIA MUHAMMAD

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TINJAUAN PEDOFILIA MUHAMMAD

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MUHAMMAD, PEDOFILIA DAN IMPLIKASI MORAL

Kita punya bukti-bukti melimpah bahwa Muhammad menikahi Aisyah di saat usianya baru 6 tahun, dan menyetubuhinya di usia 9 tahun.

SAHIH AL-BUKHARI
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234)


Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)


Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88


SAHIH MUSLIM

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3309; see also 3310)

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)

SUNAN ABU DAWUD

Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: Or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Number 2116)

JIJIKNYAAAA...... :lol: :lol:

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. According to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4915)


SUNAN IBN-I-MAJAH
1876. ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) is reported to have said: Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) contracted marriage with me while I was (yet) a six years [sic] old girl. Then we arrived at Medina and stayed with Banu Harith b. Khazraj. I fell victim to fever; then my hair (of the head fell off (and became scattered). Then they became plenty and hanged down upto [sic] the earlobes. My mother ‘Umm Ruman came to me while I was (playing) in a swing alongwith [sic] my play-mates. She (the mother) called me loudly. I went to her and I did not know what he [sic] wanted. She seized my hand and stopped me at the door of the house and I was hearing [sic] violently until the agitation of my heart was over. Then she took some water and wiped it over my face and head. Then she admitted me to the house when some woman [sic] of Ansar were present in the house. They said, "You have entered with blessings and good fortune." Then she (the mother) entrusted me to them. So they embellished me and nothing frightened me but Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) (when he came there) in the morning and they (the women) entrusted me to him. On that day, I was a nine years [sic] old girl."
1877. Abdullah (Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have said, "The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) married ‘A’isha while she was a seven years [sic] old girl and took him [sic] to his house as a bride when she was nine years old and he parted with her (after his demise) when she was eighteen years old."
(Sunan Ibn-I-Majah, Imam Abdullah Muhammad B. Yazid Ibn-I-Maja Al-Qazwini, English version by Muhammad Tufail Ansari [Kazi Publications, 121-Zulqarnain Chambers, Gampat Road, Lahore Pakistan, first edition, 1995], volume III, pp. 133-134)


IBN HISHAM
He married ‘A’isha in Mecca when she was a child of seven and lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her four hundred dirhams. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasulullah (The Life of Muhammad), translated by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi, tenth impression 1995], p. 792)

MARTIN LINGS
During the same year that followed Khadijah’s death, the Prophet dreamed that he saw a man who was carrying someone wrapped in a piece of silk. The man said to him: "This is thy wife, so uncover her." The Prophet lifted the silk and there was ‘A’ishah. But ‘A’ishah was only six years old, and he had passed his fiftieth year. Moreover Abu Bakr had promised her to Mut‘im for his son Jubayr. The Prophet simply said to himself: "If this be from God, He will bring it to pass." …
Meantime Abu Bakr approached Mut‘im, who was persuaded without difficulty to forgo the marriage of ‘A’ishah to his son; and, some months after the marriage of Sawdah, ‘A’ishah also became the Prophet’s wife, through a marriage contracted by him and her father, at which she herself was not present. She said afterwards, that she had her first inkling of her new status when one day she was playing with her friends outside, not far from their house, and her mother came and too her by the hand and led her indoors, telling her that henceforth she must not go out to play, and that her friends must come to her instead. ‘A’ishah dimly guessed the reason, though her mother did not immediately tell her that she was married; and apart from having to play in their courtyard instead of in the roads, her life continued as before.
(Lings, Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources [Inner Traditions, International, Ltd.; Rochester Vermont, 1983], pp. 105-106)

The Prophet and his daughters now went to live with Sawda in her new house; and after a month or two it was decided that ‘A’ishah’s wedding should take place. She was then only nine years old, a child of remarkable beauty, as might have been expected from her parentage…

Aisyah Masih Bermain Boneka ketika ‘Dibawa Pulang’ untuk Tidur dengan Muhammad
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)

Aisyah Belum Puber!
Al-Khattaabee said: From this Hadeeth it is understood that playing with dolls (al-banaat) is not like the amusement from other images (suwar) concerning which the threat (wa'eed) of punishment is mentioned. The only reason why permission in this was given to 'Aa'isha (may Allah be pleased with her) is because SHE HAD NOT, AT THAT TIME, REACHED THE AGE OF PUBERTY.

[al-Haafiz says:] I say: To say with certainty, [that she was not yet at the age of puberty] is questionable, though it might possibly be so. This, because 'Aa'isha (may Allah be pleased with her) was a fourteen year old girl at the time of the Battle of Khaibar - either exactly fourteen years old, or having just passed her fourteenth year [and entering into the fifteenth year], or approaching it (the fourteenth year).

As for her age at the time of the Battle of Tabook - she had by then definitely reached the age of puberty. Therefore, THE STRONGEST VIEW is that of those who said: "It was in Khaibar" [i.e. WHEN SHE WAS NOT YET AT THE AGE OF PUBERTY], and made reconciliation (jam') [between the apparent contradictory rulings, of permissibility of dolls, in particular, and the prohibition of images, in general] with what al-Khattaabee said (above) (The Beneficial Response Concerning the Islamic Ruling of Pictures/Images, by Shaykh Abdul-Azeez Ibn Abdullah Ibn Baaz, rendered in English by Abu Muhammad Abdur-Ra'uf Shakir)

Narrated Urwa bin Al-Musayyab, Alqama bin Waqqas and Ubaidullah bin Abdullah:
About the story of 'Aisha and their narrations were similar attesting each other, when the liars said what they invented about 'Aisha, and the Divine Inspiration was delayed, Allah's Apostle sent for 'Ali and Usama to consult them in divorcing his wife (i.e. 'Aisha). Usama said, "Keep your wife, as we know nothing about her except good." Buraira said, "I cannot accuse her of any defect except that she is still A YOUNG GIRL who sleeps, neglecting her family's dough which the domestic goats come to eat (i.e. she was too simpleminded to deceive her husband)." Allah's Apostle said, "Who can help me to take revenge over the man who has harmed me by defaming the reputation of my family? By Allah, I have not known about my family anything except good, and they mentioned (i.e. accused) a man about whom I did not know anything except good." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 48, Number 805)


… Buraira said, 'No, by Allah Who has sent you with the Truth, I have never seen in her anything faulty except that she is a girl of IMMATURE AGE, who sometimes sleeps and leaves the dough for the goats to eat.' … (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 48, Number 829)

'A'isha said… The women in those days were light of weight and they did not wear much flesh, as they ate less food; so they did not perceive the weight of my haudaj as they placed it upon the camel as I was A YOUNG GIRL at that time… Barira said: By Him Who sent thee with the truth, I have seen nothing objectionable in her but only this much that she is A YOUNG GIRL and she goes to sleep while kneading the flour and the lamb eats that… (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6673)

Sudah bertahun-tahun Aisyah dinikahi oleh Muhammad dan ia masih dinilai belum puber. Pertanyaan: apa urusan seorang kakek berumur 54 tahun mengawini anak perempuan kecil semacam ini?

APA KRITERIA PEDOFILIA?

Asosiasi Psikolog Amerika (APA) mendefinisikan pedofilia sebagai ketertarikan seksual terhadap anak-anak laki-laki atau perempuan atau keduanya, baik yang berada pada masa pra puber maupun puber awal:

The International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (F65.4) defines pedophilia as "a sexual preference for children, boys or girls or both, usually of prepubertal or early pubertal age."[23]
The APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 4th edition, Text Revision gives the following as its "Diagnostic criteria for 302.2 Pedophilia":[24]
A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger);
B. The person has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty;
C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.
The APA diagnostic criteria do not require actual sexual activity with a pre-pubescent youths. The diagnosis can therefore be made based on the presence of fantasies or sexual urges alone, provided the subject meets the remaining criteria. "For individuals in late adolescence with Pedophilia, no precise age difference is specified, and clinical judgment must be used." (p. 527 DSM).[25]



Jurnal-jurnal psikologi biasanya merefer pendapat Krafft-Ebing dan Rene Guyon


Seksolog Krafft-Ebing (1840-1902) melihat pedofilia sebagai pelarian masturbasi bagi laki-laki remaja yang masih takut dengan wanita dewasa sekaligus sensasi bagi pria dewasa yang mengalami keterbelakangan mental.

saw paedophilia as predominantly the last resort of the jaded debauchee in search of new sensations, and also a practice of young men frightened of the adult female and weakened by masturbation, or else a manifestation of mental deficiency. Krafft-Ebing differentiated ‘violation’ from rape as such, applying it to various forms of sexual assault without penetration. He considered that some cases manifested a particular psychopathology, sometimes due to drunkenness or epilepsy, but that in a few instances it was an actual perversion brought about by a morbid disposition.

Muhammad mengalami keterbelakangan mental?? :lol: :lol:

René Guyon (1876-1963), a French legal scholar and philosopher of sexual relations, made a case in his works on sexual ethics that children not only were not injured by sexual activity but that it was actually beneficial, arguing that the repression of children's sexuality had deleterious effects in later life. Like later apologists for paedophilia, he elided the desirability of children not being traumatically punished for their own sexual explorations, and the need for them to have some form of sex education, with the rather different issue of adult sexual access to children. The relationship between children and adults is not an equal one, given that adults are physically larger and stronger and have power and authority over them. It is questionable whether behaviour perceived by adults as sexual and seductive has such a meaning for the child.

APAKAH MUHAMMAD MEMENUHI KRITERIA SEBAGAI PEDOFIL?

Berdasarkan kriteria APA diatas, Muhammad dapat digolongkan sebagai penderita pedofilia karena menyukai anak-anak dan memunyai hasrat seksual terhadap mereka.

Muhammad punya ketertarikan terhadap anak-anak:
For the last three years scarcely a day had passed by without one or more of ‘A’ishah’s friends coming to play with her in the courtyard adjoining her father’s house. Her removal to the Prophet’s house changed nothing in this respect. Friends now came every day to visit her in her own apartment – new friends made since her arrival in Medina and also some of the old ones whose parents, like hers, had emigrated. "I would be playing with my dolls," she said, "with the girls who were my friends, and the Prophet would come in and they would steal out of the house and he would go out after them and bring them back, for he was pleased for my sake to have them there." Sometimes he would say "Stay where ye are" before they had time to move. He would also join in their games sometimes, FOR HE LOVED CHILDREN [Sam- meaning Aisha was only a child like them] and had often played with his own daughters. The dolls of puppets had many different roles. "One day," said ‘A’ishah, "the Prophet came in when I was playing with the dolls and he said: ‘O ‘A’ishah, whatever game is this?’ I said: ‘It is Solomon’s horses,’ and he laughed." But sometimes as he came in he would simply screen himself with his cloak so as not to disturb them. (Lings, Martin. Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources [Inner Traditions, International, Ltd.; Rochester Vermont, 1983, pp. 132-134)

Muhammad punya ketertarikan seksual terhadap Aisyah (bahkan di saat puasa!)
Muhammad biasa mencium Aisyah dan menghisap lidahnya di saat sedang puasa.

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) used to kiss her and suck her tongue when he was fasting. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 13, Number 2380)


Alasan Muhammad menikahi anak perempuan yang masih perawan seperti Aisyah adalah agar ia bisa bermain-main dengannya!!Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
I was accompanying the Prophet on a journey and was riding a slow camel that was lagging behind the others… When we approached Medina, I started going (towards my house). The Prophet said, "Where are you going?" I said, "I have married a widow." He said, "Why have you not married a virgin to fondle with each other?" I said, "My father died and left daughters, so I decided to marry a widow (an experienced woman) (to look after them)." He said, "Well done." … (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 38, Number 504)

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah:
While we were returning from a Ghazwa (Holy Battle) with the Prophet, I started driving my camel fast, as it was a lazy camel A rider came behind me and pricked my camel with a spear he had with him, and then my camel started running as fast as the best camel you may see. Behold! The rider was the Prophet himself. He said, 'What makes you in such a hurry?" I replied, I am newly married " He said, "Did you marry a virgin or a matron? I replied, "A matron." He said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you may play with her and she with you?" When we were about to enter (Medina), the Prophet said, "Wait so that you may enter (Medina) at night so that the lady of unkempt hair may comb her hair and the one whose husband has been absent may shave her pubic region. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 16)

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron." He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins AND FOR FONDLING THEM?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17)[/i] :shock: :shock:

Bahkan Muhammad Suka Melirik Gadis-gadis Kecil!
Muhammad also had eyes for an infant girl, promising to marry her when she grows up. Ibn Ishaq places this event during the time of the Battle of Badr in 624 AD when Muhammad was roughly 54 years old. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasulullah diterjemahkan oleh Guillaume, pp. 310-312)

IMPLIKASI MORAL

1. Muhammad berhadapan dengan etika universal segala zaman (apalagi modern). Pantaskah, seorang yang mengaku dirinya ‘nabi’, mengawini anak di bawah umur? Apa urusan kakek gaek berusia 54 tahun mengawini anak perempuan kecil yang belum puber dengan alasan untuk dapat ‘bermain-main’?

2. Dampak destruktif yang ditimbulkan terhadap si anak perempuan, baik psikologis maupun fisik.

Penulis Wade Davis dalam bukunya One River hal. 228, (Simon & Schuster), mengemukakan tentang bahaya rusaknya tulang pinggul anak perempuan yang dipaksakan berhubungan seks dengan pria dewasa karena struktur anatomi yang belum terbentuk sempurna.

"These were Loayza's concubines, Indian children who grew into adolescence physically deformed, their hips weak and permanently dislocated from intercourse."
"Sexual contact between children and adults: A life course perspective."


Selanjutnya:

Browning, Christopher R; Laumann, Edward O

Citation: American Sociological Review, v62n4, pp.540-560, Aug 1997
Number: 03374356 Features: Table; Illustration; References
Copyright: American Sociological Association 1997

"Research interest in the long-term effects of sexual contact between female children and adults has increased dramatically in the last two decades. Two sets of issues have driven this enhanced attention. The first concerns the nature and extent of the impact these experiences have on subsequent well-being in adulthood. Empirical research has offered evidence of the severe and wide ranging effects of adult-child sex by documenting its associations with a host of later "symptoms," such as low self-esteem, depression, anxiety, and sexual dysfunction."
"In each reduced model (Model 1), we see that adult-child sexual contact is significantly associated with the outcome considered. Women who experienced adult-child sexual contact were 1.6 times as likely to report sexual desire dysfunction, 2.1 times as likely to report sexual response dysfunction, 2.4 times as likely to report high dysfunction, 1.6 times as likely to report low overall well being, 1.7 times as likely to report low relationship satisfaction, and had more sexual activities that they found appealing compared with those who had no coupled sexual experiences as children. For every outcome except high dysfunction and number of sex acts found appealing, the introduction of the sexual trajectory variables (Models 2 and 3) renders the adult-child sexual contact coefficient insignificant, indicating that the effects of adult-child sex on adult outcomes are largely indirect, mediated through sexual trajectories."

3. Pernikahan Muhammad-Aisyah mendorong munculnya fatwa-fatwa yang menjustifikasi perkawinan dengan anak-anak di bawah umur.
Sandra Mackey dalam "Saudis, Inside the Desert Kingdom" menulis pada hal.161:

"Girls are considered marriageable from the time they reach puberty. The lower class marries very young. The ages for marriage and first pregnancy on Tarut Island, off the east coast, were published in a rare study on women that I unearthed from a library. In the group as a whole, the mean age for marriage was fourteen, with the first pregnancy occurring at sixteen. Out of 193 girls, 3 married as young as ten. Among the Bedouins and the rural poor, a girl can be the second of two wives, married to a man older than her father, the mother of several children, and suffering from severe depression by the age of eighteen."

Miriam Ali dalam "Without Mercy", diterbitkan oleh Warner Books, 1995 menceritakan pengalaman anak-anak perempuannya, Nadia dan Zana, yang diculik dan dijadikan istri-istri orang di Yaman. Keduanya masih di awal usia remaja:

page 123: Gowan (a man who purchased one of Miriam's daughters) laughed in my face. "They are not your daughters Miriam, they are ours (because the men purchased the girls). Mine and Abdul Khada. I paid good money for Nadia to bear children for my son, as Abdul Khada paid for Zana....Muthana (Miriam's husband) knows this. He knew this when we struck our deal. He has no problem with it........."Do you think I would allow this, the sale of my own daughters?" What is it to do with you Miriam? This is man's business, nothing for a woman to concern herself with."

page 300: I discovered that I wasn't the only one to have suffered at the hands of a Shamiri. I now knew at least 5 other mothers who have had their children taken to Yemen. This had accounted for at least 10 other children, the majority of them female. I knew that there were many more like them.
Zana had met so many girls taken from the Midlands (England), taken by force who were now in Yemen. One was a petite blonde from Derby. She was 9 years old when she was taken and had already three miscarriages when she became pregnant a forth time. This time the child had been stillborn. The death of this little baby had taken the child-mother's sanity. She was 12 years old. Another, also 12 years old, often chatted to Zana, telling her she could still count to 10 in English. She told Zana how desperate she was to go home to England. As they talked together, she suckled a child at her breast.

page 387: It's the Islam mom, I am Muslim, I can't come home with you. He said he would bring me, but it is not up to me, if -- if I can come home or not, it is up to him. I want to come home, but....."

page 390: "Imagine if you will, that this is your life, that this has happened to your own flesh and blood. Imagine a strange man touching her, beating her, raping her, impregnating her then laughing smugly in her face as she suffers."
"Please don't forget me, please don't leave me here too long, please." --- Nadia Muhsen, Taiz, Yemen. Feburary, 1992.



Kemudian dari PRINCESS, karya JEAN SASSON

page 74: In Saudi Arabia, the appearance of the first menses means that it is time to select the first veil and abaaya.

page 75: A child enters the store, but a woman emerges, veiled, and on that day, of marriageable age. Her life changes in that split second.


BAGONG JUGA NIH MUHAMMAD! NABI KOK KELEWAT MANUSIAWI!!
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Yang lebih mengherankan lagi muslim/ah....
Sudah tau nabi punya kelainan sex, masih juga manut...

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Dari threadku
Hak-hak Anak Konvensi Hak Anak

1. Hak untuk kelangsungan hidup dan berkembang.
2. Hak untuk mendapatkan nama.
3. Hak Untuk mendapat kewarganegaraan.
4. Hak untuk mendapatkan identitas.
5. Hak untuk mendapat standar hidup yang layak.
6. Hak untuk mendapatkan standar kesehatan yang paling tinggi.
7. Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan khusus dalam konflik bersenjata
8. Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan khusus jika mengalami konflik hukum.
9. Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan khusus jika mengalami eksploitasi sebagai pekerja anak.
10.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan khusus jika mengalami eksploitasi dalam penyalahgunaan obat-obatan.
11.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan hukum jika mengalami eksploitasi seksual dan penyalah guanaan sexual.
12.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan khusus dari penculikan penjualan dan perdagangan anak-anak.
13.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan khususjika mengalami eksploitasi sebagai anggota masyarakat minoritas atau masyarakat adat
14.Hak untuk hidup dengan orang tuanya.
15.Hak untuk tetap behubungan denganorang tua bila dipisahkan dengan salah satu orang tua.
16.Hak untuk mendapatkan pelatihan ketrampilan.
17.Hak untuk berekreasi.
18.Hak untuk bermain.
19.Hak untuk berpartisipasi dalam kegiatan seni dan budaya.
20.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan khusus dalam situasi yang genting.
21.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan khusus sebagai pengungsi.
22.Hak untuk bebas beragama.
23.Hak untuk bebas berserikat.
24.Hak untuk bebas berkumpul secara damai.
25.Hak untuk mendapatkan informasi dari berbagai sumber.
26.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan pribadi.
27.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan dari siksaan.
28.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan dari perlakuan kejam hukuman dan perlakuan tidak manusiawi.
29.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan dari penangkapan yang sewenang-wenang.
30.Hak untuk mendapatkan perlindungan dari kebebasan.
31.Hak untuk mendapatkan pendidikan dasar secara cuma-cuma.

Konvensi hak anak ini tentunya dibuat para pakar psikologi, kemanusiaan,pendidikan, dlsb.
Jadi posisi muhammad dan muslim + Islam = Skak , Ster, skak mat

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Gw cowok, but jijik juga nemuin fakta-fakta itu. Maklum laki-laki normal. Di penjara sodomers dan pedofil dibo'ol rame-rame. Mereka dan pemerkosa paling nggak dihormati.

1. Muhammad menyetubuhi Aisyah di umur 9 tahun.
2. Aisyah belum puber
3. Muhammad mendorong mengawini anak-anak perempuan kecil agar bisa bermain-main dengan mereka!
4. Muhammad punya ketertarikan seksual dengan Aisyah. Ia biasa menghisap lidahnya di saat puasa!
5. Muhammad menyukai gadis-gadis kecil. Ia suka melirik anak-anak perempuan dan menjanjikannya menikah.
6. Muhamad bahkan bisa jadi seorang kriminal, karena mengakibatkan kerusakan dan ketidakbahagiaan dalam diri si gadis (kita investigasi kapan-kapan)
7. Tindakan Muhammad ditiru oleh pengkut-pengikutnya, menyebabkan pengekalan 'kawin bocah dan seks terhadap anak'.

Muhammad, SEORANG PENGIDAP PEDOFILIA.
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Agree

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agree banget. musliiim? jawab thread ini dunk?

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heeeh...dasar bandel ...!!
saya udeh bahas panjang lebar ...jika MUhammad pedopfil .... coba sebutkan siapa korbannya ?? dan buktikan dia itu korban dgn tanda2 korban pedofil pada umumnya baik ditinjau dari segi kedokteran atau psikology ....?
soook ah ..!!

lagian bacot pada gede tapi bloon .... cing atuh pikir .... Aisya sebelum dinikahkan dgn Nabi waktu usia 6 tahun kan sudah dijodohkan dgn orang lain (kafir) namun batal gara2 Abu Bakar memeluk Islam ..ini kata tabari loh yg suka ente pake referensi walau ada kritikan karya2nya itu.

artinya sejak 5 tahun atau 6 tahun Aisya sudah punya jodoh tapi gagal ... nah pada Usia itu Aisya kemudian dijodohkan dgn Nabi Saw oleh ortunya. TAPIIIII .... itu nikah gantung ...artinya Aisya masih bermain layaknya anak2 lain bermain. sampai suatu saat Aisya dianggap ortunya dan orang2 pada umumnya DEWASA untuk berumah tangga ...barulah serumah dgn Nabi saw. itu konon pada usia 9 tahun ...
lalu apa iya 9 tahun sudah dewasa ?...
nah ada kemungkinan yg logis :
1. orang bisa salah mengingat aisya menyebutkan usianya sebab Urwa meriwayatkan pas lagi punya penyakit pikun. periwayatan yg lainnya aneh datang dari baghdad...tau apa orang2 baghdad ??
bisa saja Urwa salah mengingat usia aisya yg dia dapat dari keterangan bibi nya itu. Urwa kemenakan Aisya /anak dari asma kaka perempuan Aisya.

2. mungkin saja usia segitu bagi Aisya sudah bisa dewasa .... apa yg gak mungkin ? ..yg kalo gak mungkin pasti periwayatan usianya yg salah. sebab andalannya cuman ingatan gak pake AKTA KELAHIRAN. yg jelas Aisya bukan wanita lugu lagi waktu dinkah part 2 serumah dgn Nabi

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Muslim nggak menyukai diskusi seputar pedofilia Muhammad dan umur Aisyah karena fakta ini selalu tidak menyenangkan mereka.
MONTIR KEPALA wrote:heeeh...dasar bandel ...!!
saya udeh bahas panjang lebar ...jika MUhammad pedopfil .... coba sebutkan siapa korbannya ?? dan buktikan dia itu korban dgn tanda2 korban pedofil pada umumnya baik ditinjau dari segi kedokteran atau psikology ....?
soook ah ..!!
Sudah dijelaskan diatas. Silakan diliat lagi definisi dari Asosiasi Psikolog Amerika (APA) diatas.
MONTIR KEPALA wrote:lagian bacot pada gede tapi bloon .... cing atuh pikir .... Aisya sebelum dinikahkan dgn Nabi waktu usia 6 tahun kan sudah dijodohkan dgn orang lain (kafir) namun batal gara2 Abu Bakar memeluk Islam ..ini kata tabari loh yg suka ente pake referensi walau ada kritikan karya2nya itu.artinya sejak 5 tahun atau 6 tahun Aisya sudah punya jodoh tapi gagal ... nah pada Usia itu Aisya kemudian dijodohkan dgn Nabi Saw oleh ortunya. TAPIIIII .... itu nikah gantung ...artinya Aisya masih bermain layaknya anak2 lain bermain.
Irrelevant.
MONTIR KEPALA wrote:sampai suatu saat Aisya dianggap ortunya dan orang2 pada umumnya DEWASA untuk berumah tangga ...barulah serumah dgn Nabi saw. itu konon pada usia 9 tahun ...
Hadits-hadits nya bilang gitu (Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah).
MONTIR KEPALA wrote:lalu apa iya 9 tahun sudah dewasa ?...
nah ada kemungkinan yg logis :
1. orang bisa salah mengingat aisya menyebutkan usianya sebab Urwa meriwayatkan pas lagi punya penyakit pikun. periwayatan yg lainnya aneh datang dari baghdad...tau apa orang2 baghdad ??
bisa saja Urwa salah mengingat usia aisya yg dia dapat dari keterangan bibi nya itu. Urwa kemenakan Aisya /anak dari asma kaka perempuan Aisya.
Mana buktinya?
MONTIR KEPALA wrote:2. mungkin saja usia segitu bagi Aisya sudah bisa dewasa .... apa yg gak mungkin ? ..yg kalo gak mungkin pasti periwayatan usianya yg salah. sebab andalannya cuman ingatan gak pake AKTA KELAHIRAN. yg jelas Aisya bukan wanita lugu lagi waktu dinkah part 2 serumah dgn Nabi
Mana buktinya?
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maksud si montir, kalo seorang pedofilia menggauli anak kecil, tapi si anake kecil gak marah, maka dia bukan pedofilia ?

begitu juga seorang homo....

didunia ini gak ada seorang homo seksual seorang pun, kalo iya, siapa ?

elton john mengaku seorang homo, tapi sampe saat ini belum pernah gw temuin siapa korbannya?

jadi di mata islam elton john bukan lah seorang homo seksual .....
YA DASAR KAPIR BEBAL Twisted Evil Twisted Evil DIKASIH PENJELASAN TETEP AJA BLOON DI OTAK LUE PENUH PEDHOPIL
ada muslim mabok disini ?

penjelasan yg mana ?

apa penjelasan lu lebih valid dari pernyataan hadits buchari ?

kalao penjelasan lu lebih valid dari isi hadits buchari, maka seluruh isi seluruh hadits di islam boleh juga di bantah.... dan dipertanyakan, bahkan ttg tata cara sholat 5 x

gimana ? pilih yg mana ?

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Si Montje memang bloon minta bukti korban pedopil kayak bukti cacat tubuh.
Apa minta bukti vagina aisyah robek?? Minta visum et repertum???
Atau minta bukti celana dalam aisyah yang robek???
Montje, kapan elo beranjak cerdas!

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Ternyata lagi-lagi semua cuma isu karena gak disertai bukti-bukti

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Bukti Abubakar keberatan Aisyah diminta Muhammad :
Abu Bakar dengan polosnya menyerahkan bocah Aisya setelah diminta Muhammad dengan sedikit silat lidah
memutarbalikkan hukum susila.
Sahih Bukhari (Volume 7, Book 62) Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage.
Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book,
but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Terjemahan bebas: Dikisahkan 'Ursa: Rasulullah SAW meminta Abu Bakar
untuk menyetujui pernikahan beliau dengan Aisya. Abu bakar berkata: "Tetapi saya saudaramu".
Rasulullah SAW menjawab: "Kamu saudaraku dalam agama Allah (Islam) dan Al Quran, tetapi dia (Aisya) adalah boleh
untuk saya "Sahih Bukhari (Volume 7, Book 62) Jelas Abu Bakar sebenarnya kurang setuju Aisya yang masih kecil disikat
seorang yang mengaku nabi, Muhammad yang telah berumur 55 tahun. Tetapi rupanya Rasulullah SAW lebih pintar
bersilat lidah, untuk memuluskan perkawinannya denga Aisya yang baru berumur 6 tahun.
Bukti Aisyah digebuk Muhammad : (jangan minta visum et repertum!!!!)
SAHIH MUSLIM Book 004, #2127:

…Ketika giliran saya menghabiskan malam dengan Rasulullah, ia membalikkan badan, melepaskan jubah dan melepaskan sandal dan meletakkanya dekat kakinya. Ia kemudian merebah diri sampai mengira saya sudah tidur. Ia mengambil jubahnya dan perlahan2 mengenakan sandalnya, membuka pintu, keluar dan menutupnya rapat2.
Saya mengenakan tudung dan keluar mengikutinya sampai ia mencapai Baqi'. Ia lama berdiri disana. Ia kemudian mengangkat tangannya 3 kali dan beranjak pulang. Sayapun pulang. Ia mempercepat langkahnya. Sayapun mempercepat langkah saya. Ia masuk rumah dan saya juga masuk. Namun saya duluan dan saya kembali ke tempat tidur. Lalu Nabi bertanya, Aisha mengapa kau kehabisan nafas ? Saya mengatakan: tidak apa2. Ia mengatakan: Katakan kepada saya atau sang Maha Tahu akan mengatakan kepada saya. Saya menceritakan apa yang terjadi dan ia bertanya : apakah bayang2mu yang saya lihat didepan saya (di Baqi')? Saya katakan iya dan ia menjatuhkan pukulan di dada saya yang mengakibatkan saya sakit dan lalu mengatakan: Kau rasa Allah dan RasulNya akan bertindak tidak adil terhadapmu ? …

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@alhambukanmuslim, all

sejarah itu bukan ilmu pasti....emangnya ilmu matematika. apalagi ngomongin nominal umur manusia zaman dulu yg tidak pake pencatatan..mana ada yg pasti umurnya.

yg menyakinkan bahwa pernikahan Nabi dengan Aisha itu normal adalah

1. ada masa menunggu sekitar 3 tahun sebelum tinggal satu rumah. berarti ada pertimbangan kelayakan berumah tangga.

2. tidak ada kritikan atau pertentangan dari semua pihak thd pernikahan itu...artinya pernikahan itu di mata umum layak dan normal adanya.

3. pernikahan itu terkenal sebagai pernikahan politik...jadi sama sekali tidak didasarkan pada nafsu. semua pernikahan Nabi tidak ada yg didasarkan pada hawa nafsu....jangan disamain dengan elo2 pade.
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ah... muhamad aja nyang sudah kagak kuat tahan nafsu syahwatnya, blom dapat yang dewasa, ada anak kecilpun boleh juga, yang penting bisa di embat

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2. tidak ada kritikan atau pertentangan dari semua pihak thd pernikahan itu...artinya pernikahan itu di mata umum layak dan normal adanya.
Abu Bakar dengan polosnya menyerahkan bocah Aisya setelah diminta Muhammad dengan sedikit silat lidah
memutarbalikkan hukum susila.
Sahih Bukhari (Volume 7, Book 62) Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage.
Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book,
but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Terjemahan bebas: Dikisahkan 'Ursa: Rasulullah SAW meminta Abu Bakar
untuk menyetujui pernikahan beliau dengan Aisya. Abu bakar berkata: "Tetapi saya saudaramu".
Rasulullah SAW menjawab: "Kamu saudaraku dalam agama Allah (Islam) dan Al Quran, tetapi dia (Aisya) adalah boleh
untuk saya "Sahih Bukhari (Volume 7, Book 62)
Jelas Abu Bakar sebenarnya kurang setuju Aisya yang masih kecil disikat
seorang yang mengaku nabi,
Muhammad yang telah berumur 55 tahun. Tetapi rupanya Rasulullah SAW lebih pintar
bersilat lidah, untuk memuluskan perkawinannya denga Aisya yang baru berumur 6 tahun.
1. ada masa menunggu sekitar 3 tahun sebelum tinggal satu rumah. berarti ada pertimbangan kelayakan berumah tangga.
Tidak merubah usia aisyah menjadi lebih dewasa tetap saja 9 tahun, apakah gadis 9 tahun siap berumah tangga??? Dasar pedopil betina!
3. pernikahan itu terkenal sebagai pernikahan politik...jadi sama sekali tidak didasarkan pada nafsu. semua pernikahan Nabi tidak ada yg didasarkan pada hawa nafsu....jangan disamain dengan elo2 pade.
Apapun alasanya minumnya tetap pedopil!!!
sejarah itu bukan ilmu pasti....emangnya ilmu matematika. apalagi ngomongin nominal umur manusia zaman dulu yg tidak pake pencatatan..mana ada yg pasti umurnya.
Kamu ini ngomong apa?? Hadistnya bertaburan bahwa aisyah berumur 9 thn ketika di To'i muhammad!!!

Lagi pula ocehan kamu sangat jelas bahwa kamu mengakui islam luntur tergerus jaman!!!!

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alley_shatree wrote:@alhambukanmuslim, all

sejarah itu bukan ilmu pasti....emangnya ilmu matematika. apalagi ngomongin nominal umur manusia zaman dulu yg tidak pake pencatatan..mana ada yg pasti umurnya.
silakan tanggepin haditsnya. sudah ada disana.
alley_shatree wrote:yg menyakinkan bahwa pernikahan Nabi dengan Aisha itu normal adalah

1. ada masa menunggu sekitar 3 tahun sebelum tinggal satu rumah. berarti ada pertimbangan kelayakan berumah tangga.
Nggak relevan dengan isu. Aisyah dinikahi usia 6 tahun, disetubuhi usia 9 tahun. Dibawa ke rumah oleh Muhammad dengan bonekanya. Baca lagi deh. Jangan buru-buru berapologi malah kelihatan konyol.
alley_shatree wrote:2. tidak ada kritikan atau pertentangan dari semua pihak thd pernikahan itu...artinya pernikahan itu di mata umum layak dan normal adanya.
BWAHAHAHA...! udah dijawab ma si eneng diatas.
Thanks, Eneng.
alley_shatree wrote:3. pernikahan itu terkenal sebagai pernikahan politik...jadi sama sekali tidak didasarkan pada nafsu. semua pernikahan Nabi tidak ada yg didasarkan pada hawa nafsu....jangan disamain dengan elo2 pade.
Silakan baca lagi dalam artikel tentang kegemaran Muhammad menciumi dan menghisap lidah Aisyah ketika puasa.

MAKANYA BACA, NANGGEPIN MILIH!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Eneng Kusnadi wrote:Si Montje memang bloon minta bukti korban pedopil kayak bukti cacat tubuh.
Apa minta bukti vagina aisyah robek?? Minta visum et repertum???
Atau minta bukti celana dalam aisyah yang robek???
Montje, kapan elo beranjak cerdas!
Cara berpikir si Montje
Seorang laki2 yang selalu ereksi bila melihat pria berotot jalan di depannya, lalu membayangkan bersetubuh dengan pria itu di dalam mimpinya

BELUMLAH BISA DIKATAKAN SEBAGAI KELAINAN HOMOSEKSUAL

sebelum laki2 ini men-S0D0MI pria berotot tersebut....

Bukankah begitu?
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cinta Nabi yg didasari romantisme mah cuma SITI KHADIJAH .... yg lainnya tuntutan tugas sbg rekonsiliator di madina....

ABM ...ente belum menyanggah apapun dan belum membuktikan apapun ttg pedofilia pd Nabi...ente gagal

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Gerrrr..!!!
Hihihi...self-claim karena gabisa bantah.
Pelajaran buat ente, klo gabisa ngasih bukti gausah bikin pernyataan aneh2. Ente pertanggungjawabin dulu klaim-klaim kosong ente dg bukti baru kita lanjut. Kemayu.
Dua, ente gabisa bahasa Inggris ya?? atau jelek ingrisnya? baca lagi artikel diatas, cocokkan dengan kriteria APA tentang pedofilia (1. suka anak pra-puber atau puber awal, 2. usia umumnya <13 th, 3. penderita sekurangnya 16 th atau 5 th lebih tua dr si bocah korban). Muhammad semua masuk.

Baca lagi deh yang teliti. Jangan kita suruh ngulangi. Klo mo bantah yg jelas yang mana buktinya apa :D

PS. Buat alley dan montir, mulai sekarang setiap dalil atau pernyataan kalian harus ada buktinya! klo gak just keep silent or out ajah
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coba kalo gw baca dari sini kog beda dan sepertinya analisisnya lebih kuat daripada hadist itu :

http://www.ancient-history.nl/Islam/Com ... 20Bakr.htm


Aisha became the Prophet's wife in Makkah when she was most likely in the 9th year of her life but her wedding did not take place until the second year after the Hijrah when she was about fourteen or fifteen years old. Before and after her wedding she maintained a natural jollity and innocence and did not seem at all overawed by the thought of being wedded to him who was the Messenger of God whom all his companions, including her own mother and father, treated with such love and reverence as they gave to no one else.

nah jelas kan weddingnya dilangsungkan baru setelah usia aisha 14 atau 15 th an. disitu yg jadi patokan waktu pernikahannya adalah tahun kedua setelah hijriyah yg mana usia Aisha sudah mencapai 15 th an.

coba sebenernya gw pengen tau mungkin dari muslimer ada yg tau...apakah hadist yg mengatakan usia Aisha dinikahi usia 6 th/9 th itu shahih atau engga ??

kan lebih baik kayak tulisan diatas...ngga asal nulis umur 6 th tanpa ada analisisnya, ngga jelas sumbernya dan pertimbangannya apa.

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