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SEBERAPA Banyak Budak Aisha, LEBIH DARI 40?

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SEBERAPA Banyak Budak Aisha, LEBIH DARI 40?

Postby Rebecca » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:46 pm

Dalam dua hadist berikut ini terekam jumlah budak aisha MINIMAL 40 orang! Hanya karena aisha melanggar sumpahnya sendiri untuk tidak mau bertemu dan berbicara dgn Abdullah bin Az-Zubair, UNTUK ITU aisha merasa perlu MEMBEBASKAN 40 budak sebagai penenang dari rasa bersalahnya!


PERTANYAAN logis kalau ditanyakan bahwa BERAPA BANYAK budak si aisha? Karena aisha isteri muhammad, wajarkan kl budak si aisha juga adalah kepunyaan nabi bejat tersebut!






TERUS darimana uang muhammad membelikan aisha LEBIH DARI 40 BUDAK? :D ...SEBERAPA BANYAK rupanya JUMLAH TOTAL BUDAK muhammad? kuaya banget ternyata yah si nabi bejat perampok ini!





BUKHARI, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 708:
Narrated 'Urwa bin Az-Zubair:
'Abdullah bin Az-Zubair was the most beloved person to 'Aisha excluding the Prophet and Abu Bakr, and he in his turn, was the most devoted to her, 'Aisha used not to withhold the money given to her by Allah, but she used to spend it in charity. ('Abdullah) bin AzZubair said, " 'Aisha should be stopped from doing so." (When 'Aisha heard this), she said protestingly, "Shall I be stopped from doing so? I vow that I will never talk to 'Abdullah bin Az-Zubair." On that, Ibn Az-Zubair asked some people from Quraish and particularly the two uncles of Allah's Apostle to intercede with her, but she refused (to talk to him). Az-Zuhriyun, the uncles of the Prophet, including 'Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad bin 'Abd Yaghuth and Al-Miswar bin Makhrama said to him, "When we ask for the permission to visit her, enter her house along with us (without taking her leave)." He did accordingly (and she accepted their intercession). He sent her ten slaves whom she manumitted as an expiation for (not keeping) her vow. 'Aisha manumitted more slaves for the same purpose till she manumitted forty slaves. She said, "I wish I had specified what I would have done in case of not fulfilling my vow when I made the vow, so that I might have done it easily."





BUKHARI, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 98:
Narrated 'Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) that she was told that 'Abdullah bin Az-Zubair (on hearing that she was selling or giving something as a gift) said, "By Allah, if 'Aisha does not give up this, I will declare her incompetent to dispose of her wealth." I said, "Did he ('Abdullah bin Az-Zubair) say so?" They (people) said, "Yes." 'Aisha said, "I vow to Allah that I will never speak to Ibn Az-Zubair." When this desertion lasted long, 'Abdullah bin Az-Zubair sought intercession with her, but she said, "By Allah, I will not accept the intercession of anyone for him, and will not commit a sin by breaking my vow." When this state of affairs was prolonged on Ibn Az-Zubair (he felt it hard on him), he said to Al-Miswar bin Makhrama and 'Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad bin 'Abu Yaghuth, who were from the tribe of Bani Zahra, "I beseech you, by Allah, to let me enter upon 'Aisha, for it is unlawful for her to vow to cut the relation with me." So Al-Miswar and 'Abdur-Rahman, wrapping their sheets around themselves, asked 'Aisha's permission saying, "Peace and Allah's Mercy and Blessings be upon you! Shall we come in?" 'Aisha said, "Come in." They said, "All of us?" She said, "Yes, come in all of you," not knowing that Ibn Az-Zubair was also with them. So when they entered, Ibn Az-Zubair entered the screened place and got hold of 'Aisha and started requesting her to excuse him, and wept. Al-Miswar and 'Abdur Rahman also started requesting her to speak to him and to accept his repentance. They said (to her), "The Prophet forbade what you know of deserting (not speaking to your Muslim Brethren), for it is unlawful for any Muslim not to talk to his brother for more than three nights (days)." So when they increased their reminding her (of the superiority of having good relation with Kith and kin, and of excusing others' sins), and brought her down to a critical situation, she started reminding them, and wept, saying, "I have made a vow, and (the question of) vow is a difficult one." They (Al-Miswar and 'Abdur-Rahman) persisted in their appeal till she spoke with 'Abdullah bin Az-Zubair and she manumitted forty slaves as an expiation for her vow. Later on, whenever she remembered her vow, she used to weep so much that her veil used to become wet with her tears.






aku jadi ingat salah satu ayat favoriteku sbb: :D

[8:41] Ketahuilah, sesungguhnya apa saja yang dapat kamu peroleh sebagai rampasan perang, maka sesungguhnya seperlima untuk Allah, Rasul, kerabat Rasul, anak-anak yatim, orang-orang miskin dan ibnusabil, jika kamu beriman kepada Allah dan kepada apa yang Kami turunkan kepada hamba Kami (Muhammad) di hari Furqaan, yaitu di hari bertemunya dua pasukan. Dan Allah Maha Kuasa atas segala sesuatu.






DARIMANA lagi kl bukan dari harta rampasan perang itu muhammad bisa membelikan/memberikan aisha LEBIH DARI 40 BUDAK?Hiihihihi... :D :lol: Emangnya muhammad punya professi lain selain TUKANG RAMPOK? :D
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Postby ceceps01 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:52 am

Yg laki buat Aisha,
yg cewe buat si M.
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Postby Rashidi » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:01 pm

    Emangnya muhammad punya professi lain selain TUKANG RAMPOK?


muhammad si tukang tagih jizyah.
muhammad si tukang nepu.
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Postby gaston31 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:21 pm

Bec, elo ga tau seh.
melanggar sumpah tuh emng boleh ditebus dgn memerdekakan budak. jd bukan cmn budak sendiri aj.
coba cari hadits lain yg scr jelas menyebutkan, jumlah budak Aisha di rumah adalah sekian.. sekian.. sekian...
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Postby ceceps01 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:28 pm

Gaston,
yg jadi masalah bukan ngebebasin budak,
tapi kok bisa punya budak segitu banyak.

Lha, katanya M menghapuskan perbudakan tapi malah miara budak segitu banyak.
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Postby Rebecca » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:37 pm

gaston31 wrote:Bec, elo ga tau seh.
melanggar sumpah tuh emng boleh ditebus dgn memerdekakan budak. jd bukan cmn budak sendiri aj.
coba cari hadits lain yg scr jelas menyebutkan, jumlah budak Aisha di rumah adalah sekian.. sekian.. sekian...



Bayangkan untuk menebus rasa bersalah krn melanggar sumpah tersebut, aisha membebaskan 40 budak!...Bisa tidak kau bayangkan atau kau hitung, berapa jumlah budak milik muhammad dan aisha? :D ...Apa kau masih percaya muhammad hidup miskin? Hihihihi...
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Postby Rebecca » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:45 pm

ceceps01 wrote:Lha, katanya M menghapuskan perbudakan tapi malah miara budak segitu banyak.



Ini bakalan jadi thread seru ceps!.. :D ...aku mau lihat tanggapan si montir yang masih percaya muhammad hidup miskin...hihihi...Mungkin saja si montir beranggapan muhammad hidup miskin berkelimpahan budak!...Hahahaha
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Postby Rebecca » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:52 pm

G13 wrote:hidup islam..., ajaran muhammad yg berkembang paling pesat, yg mulai menggerogoti dominasi kristen di penjuru dumia!


G13, muhammad dan aisha punya berapa budak? Hihihii...kenapa kau histeris begitu? :D :lol:
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Postby gaston31 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:44 pm

nah itu, justru yg dibebaskan tuh budak orang lain!
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Postby Lea » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:25 pm

[quote="gaston31"]Bec, elo ga tau seh.
melanggar sumpah tuh emng boleh ditebus dgn memerdekakan budak. jd bukan cmn budak sendiri aj.
coba cari hadits lain yg scr jelas menyebutkan, jumlah budak Aisha di rumah adalah sekian.. sekian.. sekian...[/quote]

Emang kalo membebaskan budak orang laen, pake apa?
Kayaknya harus pake harta benda juga deh. Berarti uangnya banyak juga. Apa ada orang yang mau bebasin budaknya asal aisa yang minta?
Kenapa Aisa ngga minta bebasin aja semua budak-budaknya dan budak orang lain juga?
Ahhhh :?:
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Postby Rebecca » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:45 pm

gaston31 wrote:nah itu, justru yg dibebaskan tuh budak orang lain!


ton, tak satupun bualanmu berdasar. Bawa sini referensi yang kau punya, itu pun kl ada! :D
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Postby Rebecca » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:36 am

ABU DAWUD, Book 12, Number 2229:
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

Al-Qasim said: Aisha intended to set free two slaves of her who were spouses. She, therefore, asked the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) about this matter. He commanded to begin with the man before the woman. The narrator Nasr said: AbuAli al-Hanafi reported it to me on the authority of Ubaydullah.







Tuh, si aisha kedapetan lg memiliki dua budak (sepasang suami isteri). Kembali ke pertanyaan asal, berapa buanyak kah budak-budak aisha dan muhammad? :D
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Postby MONTIR KEPALA » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:05 am

itulah hebatnya orang2 Islam ...punya duit beli budak trus bebasin ...
MULIA BANGEEEEETTTTTT !!!..... siapa dulu donk Nabinya .....!!
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Postby Rebecca » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:11 am

MUSLIM, Book 023, Number 4976:
Thumama (i. e. Ibn Hazn al-Qushairi) reported: I met 'A'isha and asked her about Nabidh (that was served to the Holy Prophet). 'A'isha called an Abyssinian maid (servant) and said: Ask her (about it) for it was he, who prepared the Nabidh for the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). The Abyssinian (maid-servant) said: I prepared Nabidh for him in a waterskin in the night and tied its mouth and then suspended it; and when it was morning he (the Holy Prophet) drank from it.




wuah, aisha kedapetan lg memiliki budak. BERAPAkah gerangan budak-budak aisha dan muhammad?



Menarik sekali nih untuk mengetahui jumlah budak aisha seluruhnya!...untuk membungkam si montir yang masih percaya muhammad hidup sederhana dgn berlimpah budak! Hihihii... :D
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Postby Rebecca » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:13 am

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:itulah hebatnya orang2 Islam ...punya duit beli budak trus bebasin ...
MULIA BANGEEEEETTTTTT !!!..... siapa dulu donk Nabinya .....!!




mon, coba dikonversi 40 budak x sekian uang/budak = ? darimana tuh uang si muhammad kl tidak hasil merampok? :D
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Postby Rebecca » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:20 am

Dari hadist di bawah ini, bisa kita dapatkan kisaran harga per budak pada jaman itu yaitu seharga 800 dirhams,



BUKHARI, Volume 9, Book 85, Number 80:
Narrated Jabir:
A man from the Ansar made his slave, a Mudabbar. And apart from that slave he did not have any other property. This news reached Allah's Apostle and he said, "Who will buy that slave from me?" So Nu'aim bin An-Nahham bought him for 800 Dirham. Jabir added: It was a coptic (Egyptian) slave who died that year.





Jadi uang yang dikeluarkan oleh aisha untuk membebaskan 40 budak = 40 x 800 Dirhams = 32. 000 Dirhams!





32 RIBU Dirhams zaman itu setara dengan berapa saat ini? bisa nggak buat beli SATU RUMAH mewah si asbunawas (TKW aseli changi) di perumahan gading? :D
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Postby SQUALL LION HEART » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:29 am

Kalau muhammad dan istri aja kagak makan dengan kenyang seperti perkataan montir..
gimana ya nasib tuh budak ???
makan apa mereka ya ??
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Postby MONTIR KEPALA » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:38 am

Rebek wrote:Dari hadist di bawah ini, bisa kita dapatkan kisaran harga per budak pada jaman itu yaitu seharga 800 dirhams,


kayak Menteri Perindustrian dan perdagangan Kabinet Jahiliyah

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Rebecca » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:45 am

Pada zaman muhammad, satu dirham seharga seekor AYAM. Dari sini bisa kita kalkulasi, berapakah nilai 32000 Dirhams tersebut.


An interesting observation is that at the time of the Prophet, around 600 AD, a silver Dirham would buy a chicken.


http://www.anglofareast.com/0106.html




Jadi 32000 Dirhams saat itu SAMA DENGAN 32000 ekor ayam saat ini. Jika harga seekor ayam saat ini adalah Rp.20. 000 MAKA uang yang harus dikeluarkan muhammad untuk pembebasan budak oleh aisha SETARA (dgn harga saat ini) DENGAN = 32. 000 x Rp. 20. 000 = Rp. 640. 000. 000 = Rp. 640 JUTA! :D






Wuah, muhammad benar2 kaya yah!...darimanakah gerangan kekayaan muhammad itu? Merampok atau merampok? :D
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Postby Rebecca » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:48 am

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:kayak Menteri Perindustrian dan perdagangan Kabinet Jahiliyah

:lol: :lol: :lol:



mon, udah mati kutu hingga kau histeris? masih percaya kau kebohongan muhammad? :D :lol:
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