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MUHAMMAD WAS A CHILD RAPIST

Muhammad dan istri2nya, pedofilia dan kehidupan seksual nabi

MUHAMMAD WAS A CHILD RAPIST

Postby tikka khan » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:40 pm

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Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad

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By Ali Sina

The thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people. It is difficult to accept that the Holy Prophet married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old.


Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is of course not true and here is the proof.

Sahih Bukhari 7.18
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

Arabs were a primitive lot with little rules to abide. Yet they had some code of ethics that they honored scrupulously. For example, although they fought all the year round, they abstained from hostilities during certain holy months of the year. They also considered Mecca to be a holy city and did not make war against it. A adopted son’s wife was deemed to be a daughter in law and they would not marry her. Also it was customary that close friends made a pact of brotherhood and considered each other as true brothers. The Prophet disregarded all of these rules anytime they stood between him and his interests or whims.

Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each other to be brothers. So according to their costoms Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Yet that did not stop him to ask her hand even when she was only six years old.

But this moral relativist Prophet would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like.
Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
It was said to the Prophet, "Won't you marry the daughter of Hamza?" He said, "She is my foster niece (brother's daughter). "

Hamza and Abu Bakr both were the foster brothers of Muhammad. But Ayesha must have been too pretty for the Prophet to abide by the codes of ethics and custom.

In the following Hadith he confided to Ahesha that he had dreamed of her before soliciting her from her father.

Sahih Bukhari 9.140
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' Then you were shown to me, the angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' "

Whether Muhammad had actually such dream or he just said it to please Ayesha is not the point. What matters here is that it indicates that Ayesaha was a baby being “carried” by an angel when the Prophet dreamed of her.

There are numerous hadithes that explicitly reveal the age of Ayesha at the time of her marriage. Here are some of them.

Sahih Bukhari 5.236.
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari 5.234
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

And in another Hadith we read.

Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915, also Number 4916 and Number 4917
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.

In the above hadith we read that Ayesha was swinging, This is a play of little girls not grown up people. The following Hadith is particularly interesting because it shows that Ayesha was so small that was not aware what was going on when the Holy Prophet “surprised” her by going to her.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 90
Narrated Aisha:
When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon.


Must have been quite a surprise! But the following is also interesting because it demonstrates that she was just a kid playing with her dolls. Pay attention to what the interpreter wrote in the parenthesis. (She was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty)


Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)


Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3311
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

The holy Prophet died when he was 63. So he must have married Ayesha when he as 51 and went to her when he was 54.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 33
Narrated 'Aisha:
I never felt so jealous of any woman as I did of Khadija, though she had died three years before the Prophet married me, and that was because I heard him mentioning her too often, and because his Lord had ordered him to give her the glad tidings that she would have a palace in Paradise, made of Qasab and because he used to slaughter a sheep and distribute its meat among her friends.


Khadija died in December of 619 AD. That is two years before Hijra. At that time the Prophet was 51-years-old. So in the same year that Khadija died the prophet married Ayesha and took her to his home 3 years later, i.e. one year after Hijra. But until she grow up he married Umm Salama.

In another part Ayesha claims that as long as she remembers her parents were always Muslims.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 245

Narrated 'Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) I never remembered my parents believing in any religion other than the true religion (i.e. Islam),



If Ayesha was older i.e. 16 or 18 as some Muslims claim, she would have remembered the religion of her parents prior to becoming Muslims.

Now someone may still claim that all these hadithes are lies. People are free to say whatever they want. But truth is clear like the Sun for those who have eyes.

No sane person would be aroused by a 9-year-old child. Decent people wince at the thought of this shameful act. Yet some Muslims deny them. The question is why so many followers of Muhammad would fabricate so many false hadithes about the age of Ayisha, which incidentally confirm each other?

I can tell you why people would attribute false miracles to their prophet. Babis believe that Bab started to praise God as soon as he was born. There is a Hadith like that also about Muhammad. Christians believe the birth of the Christ was miraculous and the Jews believe Moses opened a dry passageway through the Red Sea. Believers love to hear these stories. It confirms their faith. There are many absurd miracles attributed to Muhammad in the hadiths, despite the fact that he denied being able to perform any miracles. But why should anyone fabricate a lie about the age of Ayisha that would portray his Prophet as a pedophile?

Controversies About the Age of Ayesha.
Moral Evaluations of the Marriage of the Prophet with Ayesha



When we say Muhammad had sex with 9 year old child, Muslims brush it away and bring all sorts of excuses to justify this shameful act. This is the nature of blind faith and cognitive dissonance. Maybe by visualizing it, some of them will would come to their senses and realize how evil this fiend they call prophet, was. There is not a single proof that this man was a prophet while there are tons of evidences that he was an evil man.










The thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people. It is difficult to accept that the Holy Prophet married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old.


Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is of course not true and here is the proof.

Sahih Bukhari 7.18
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

Arabs were a primitive lot with little rules to abide. Yet they had some code of ethics that they honored scrupulously. For example, although they fought all the year round, they abstained from hostilities during certain holy months of the year. They also considered Mecca to be a holy city and did not make war against it. A adopted son’s wife was deemed to be a daughter in law and they would not marry her. Also it was customary that close friends made a pact of brotherhood and considered each other as true brothers. The Prophet disregarded all of these rules anytime they stood between him and his interests or whims.

Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each other to be brothers. So according to their costoms Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Yet that did not stop him to ask her hand even when she was only six years old.

But this moral relativist Prophet would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like.
Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
It was said to the Prophet, "Won't you marry the daughter of Hamza?" He said, "She is my foster niece (brother's daughter). "

Hamza and Abu Bakr both were the foster brothers of Muhammad. But Ayesha must have been too pretty for the Prophet to abide by the codes of ethics and custom.

In the following Hadith he confided to Ahesha that he had dreamed of her before soliciting her from her father.

Sahih Bukhari 9.140
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' Then you were shown to me, the angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' "

Whether Muhammad had actually such dream or he just said it to please Ayesha is not the point. What matters here is that it indicates that Ayesaha was a baby being “carried” by an angel when the Prophet dreamed of her.

There are numerous hadithes that explicitly reveal the age of Ayesha at the time of her marriage. Here are some of them.

Sahih Bukhari 5.236.
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari 5.234
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

And in another Hadith we read.

Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915, also Number 4916 and Number 4917
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.

In the above hadith we read that Ayesha was swinging, This is a play of little girls not grown up people. The following Hadith is particularly interesting because it shows that Ayesha was so small that was not aware what was going on when the Holy Prophet “surprised” her by going to her.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 90
Narrated Aisha:
When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon.


Must have been quite a surprise! But the following is also interesting because it demonstrates that she was just a kid playing with her dolls. Pay attention to what the interpreter wrote in the parenthesis. (She was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty)


Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)


Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3311
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

The holy Prophet died when he was 63. So he must have married Ayesha when he as 51 and went to her when he was 54.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 33
Narrated 'Aisha:
I never felt so jealous of any woman as I did of Khadija, though she had died three years before the Prophet married me, and that was because I heard him mentioning her too often, and because his Lord had ordered him to give her the glad tidings that she would have a palace in Paradise, made of Qasab and because he used to slaughter a sheep and distribute its meat among her friends.


Khadija died in December of 619 AD. That is two years before Hijra. At that time the Prophet was 51-years-old. So in the same year that Khadija died the prophet married Ayesha and took her to his home 3 years later, i.e. one year after Hijra. But until she grow up he married Umm Salama.

In another part Ayesha claims that as long as she remembers her parents were always Muslims.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 245

Narrated 'Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) I never remembered my parents believing in any religion other than the true religion (i.e. Islam),



If Ayesha was older i.e. 16 or 18 as some Muslims claim, she would have remembered the religion of her parents prior to becoming Muslims.

Now someone may still claim that all these hadithes are lies. People are free to say whatever they want. But truth is clear like the Sun for those who have eyes.

No sane person would be aroused by a 9-year-old child. Decent people wince at the thought of this shameful act. Yet some Muslims deny them. The question is why so many followers of Muhammad would fabricate so many false hadithes about the age of Ayisha, which incidentally confirm each other?

I can tell you why people would attribute false miracles to their prophet. Babis believe that Bab started to praise God as soon as he was born. There is a Hadith like that also about Muhammad. Christians believe the birth of the Christ was miraculous and the Jews believe Moses opened a dry passageway through the Red Sea. Believers love to hear these stories. It confirms their faith. There are many absurd miracles attributed to Muhammad in the hadiths, despite the fact that he denied being able to perform any miracles. But why should anyone fabricate a lie about the age of Ayisha that would portray his Prophet as a pedophile?

Controversies About the Age of Ayesha.
Moral Evaluations of the Marriage of the Prophet with Ayesha



When we say Muhammad had sex with 9 year old child, Muslims brush it away and bring all sorts of excuses to justify this shameful act. This is the nature of blind faith and cognitive dissonance. Maybe by visualizing it, some of them will would come to their senses and realize how evil this fiend they call prophet, was. There is not a single proof that this man was a prophet while there are tons of evidences that he was an evil man.

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Postby Adadeh » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:51 pm

Tikka Khan,
Thank you for your postings about the crimes of Muhammad. Are you a Pakistani? If you are, I'd like to welcome you at the Know Islam Indonesian Forum.

Actually, the article about the age of Aisha has been translated to Indonesian and can be accessed over here:
http://indonesian.knowislam.info/forum/ ... .php?t=386
The topic has been beaten up to a pulp over here:
http://indonesian.knowislam.info/forum/ ... c.php?t=53

Thanks again for your contribution.
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Postby tikka khan » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:55 pm

Adadeh wrote:Tikka Khan,
Thank you for your postings about the crimes of Muhammad. Are you a Pakistani? If you are, I'd like to welcome you at the Know Islam Indonesian Forum.

Actually, the article about the age of Aisha has been translated to Indonesian and can be accessed over here:
http://indonesian.knowislam.info/forum/ ... .php?t=386
The topic has been beaten up to a pulp over here:
http://indonesian.knowislam.info/forum/ ... c.php?t=53

Thanks again for your contribution.


no, i am from india and hindu. what about you ? you must be a pakistani non-muslim.

i took a muslim name to enter here.

i have seen the links but could not understand anything.
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Postby ali5196 » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:57 am

You are very welcome here tikka khan !

When in doubt just send all your interesting postings in this forum (entitled Muhamad) and I will translate it for the indonesians. But most of the articfles in FFI are already translated here. So, we need some new input, maybe from an Indian angle. You can choose the following below:

You can contribute in the Hindu forum :
http://indonesian.knowislam.info/forum/ ... m.php?f=16

Or maybe you can give us your comments in this following forum re conversions by force by Muslims against Indians;
http://indonesian.knowislam.info/forum/ ... php?t=1299

You can show us whether what is said in the above link about Islam and Muslims in India is true or false, or whether we are just [email protected]**[email protected] .... Your contribution will be very helpful.

ALso, did you know that The TAJ MAHAL WAS A HINDU TEMPLE ?
http://indonesian.knowislam.info/forum/ ... .php?t=891

SO, have fun at the Indonesian version of FFI

PS: In my younger days in Indonesia, I love to read illustrated cartoons on the MAHABRATA & RAMAYANA. THANK YOU FOR GIVING THE WORLD SUCH A GREAT CIVILISATION. HAIL TO KRISHNA ! AWAY WITH MUHAMAD, THE DEMONIC PROPHET !!!!
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Postby Adadeh » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:14 am

Tikka Khan:
no, i am from india and hindu..

Wow, I think this is for the first time we have a foreign visitor. It's great to have you here.

what about you ? you must be a pakistani non-muslim

Haha! No, I am not a Pakistani. I am Indonesian Christian. 50% of our netters are Muslim, the rest is non-Muslim. So, you can imagine how hot the 'discussion' can be.

i have seen the links but could not understand anything.

If you need any help, just let me know. Most of our Hindu people come from Bali. We have a sub-forum for Hindu:
http://indonesian.knowislam.info/forum/ ... m.php?f=16
Most Muslim in Indonesia have no clue what Islam did to Hindu in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Even after being shown the historical facts, pictures of destruction, news report, they still prefer to cover their eyes and ears and insist that Islam is a religion of peace. That's what they want to believe, that's what they tell each other in Indonesia.

I got a lot of friends from India. Most of them majoring in EE and computer science. You guys are good in coding!!
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Postby Adadeh » Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:50 am

This is pretty sick:
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Postby wachdie.jr » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:11 am

mas adadeh.....
mengerikan deh kartun nyaaaa..

bisa ana pinjam idenya untuk buat kaos t-shirt olah raga? ana yakin pasti bakal laku keras jika dieksport ke arab...
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Postby Adadeh » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:27 pm

Wachdie:
mengerikan deh kartun nyaaaa..

Iya, betul. Sekarang saya kalau lihat anak perempuan usia sekitar 6 sampai 9 tahun, saya langsung inget si Aisyah sama Muhammad dan seketika merinding.

bisa ana pinjam idenya untuk buat kaos t-shirt olah raga?

Walah, kalau dipakai di Indonesia sih, ente bisa dirajam! Begitulah Muslim. Mereka udah tahu kalau nabinya itu fedofil, tapi kalau orang lain bilang atau gambar terang2an seperti itu, mereka ngamuknya setengah mati.

ana yakin pasti bakal laku keras jika dieksport ke arab...

:D Bisa cepet kaya, Bang Wachdie. Waktu menjualnya yang tepat adalah saat ibadah haji, biar banyak sekali yang melihat.
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Postby HymenAisyah » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:41 pm

Muhammad bukan pedofil, ****!

Kenapa?

Karena dia Muhammad. Karena dia Muhammad. That's it. Titik!

Dia hanya mengawini anak kecil yang umurnya jauuuuuuuh di bawah dia. Mungkin karena enggak ada lagi perempuan dewasa atau janda tua yang miskin lagi di seantero jazirah Arab. Di malam yang dingin di tanah Arab yang sunyi, Muhammad yang sudah tuwir masukin deh penis tuanya yang ereksi ke dalam vaginanya Aisyah yang masih imut (entah muat ato enggak, lecet ato enggak sehabis Aki Mo menggesek-gesekkan senjatanya, entah pula apa Aisyah mengalami kenikmatan orgasme) trus nyemprotin spermanya di dalam vagina Aisyah...
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Postby MONTIR KEPALA » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:10 am

untuk membantah Nabi Muhamamd sbg PEDOPHILE ... cukup tanyakan siapa KORBAN nya ..!
dan minta agar dibuktikan adakah ciri2 korban pedophile pada sang korban tsb ....kalo tdk ada maka itu sekedar FITNAHAN MUrahan ...

sampai detik ini si ALI SINA masih belon bisa mematahkan cara seperti ini ... silakan simak di sini :
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewt ... 499#944499
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Postby murtad mama » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:52 pm

@trus bagaimana dengan waktu dia memegang boneka, apakah itu bukan waktu kanak2nya si aisha????
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Postby MONTIR KEPALA » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:34 pm

hadits2 semuanya bercerita AISYA dinikah Nabi Muhammad pada waktu 9 tahun .....
saya minta bukti Aisya dipaksa melakukan hubungan intim pada usia itu oleh Muhammad.

anak kecil yg dipaksa melakukan sex dgn dewasa dampak psikologisnya sangat kentara dan kuat ...berdasar data sebuah kelompok penyayang anak di Amerika rata2 mereka mengalami gangguan psikologis, traumatik mendalam hingga bunuh diri di kemudian hari.
sikap thd pedophile (yg sebagian besar seorang tokoh agamawan gereja) kaku, tegang, ketakutan yg sangat.

silakan gangguan psikologis itu bener2 terjadi pada Aisya dan sikap takut thd pedophile bener2 terjadi pada Aisya ...silakan buktikan Aisya mengalami trauma sexual abusement.
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Postby pemulihan » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:02 pm

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:anak kecil yg dipaksa melakukan sex dgn dewasa dampak psikologisnya sangat kentara dan kuat ...berdasar data sebuah kelompok penyayang anak di Amerika rata2 mereka mengalami gangguan psikologis, traumatik mendalam hingga bunuh diri di kemudian hari.
sikap thd pedophile (yg sebagian besar seorang tokoh agamawan gereja) kaku, tegang, ketakutan yg sangat.


Anda buktikan dulu anda baca sumbernya dari mana?
Trus yang utama poin yang saya kasih huruf tebal itu. Data-datanya dulu?

Anda berani berkomentar berarti anda berani mempertanggung jawabkan toh?
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Postby murtad mama » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:52 pm

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:hadits2 semuanya bercerita AISYA dinikah Nabi Muhammad pada waktu 9 tahun .....
saya minta bukti Aisya dipaksa melakukan hubungan intim pada usia itu oleh Muhammad.

anak kecil yg dipaksa melakukan sex dgn dewasa dampak psikologisnya sangat kentara dan kuat ...berdasar data sebuah kelompok penyayang anak di Amerika rata2 mereka mengalami gangguan psikologis, traumatik mendalam hingga bunuh diri di kemudian hari.
sikap thd pedophile (yg sebagian besar seorang tokoh agamawan gereja) kaku, tegang, ketakutan yg sangat.

silakan gangguan psikologis itu bener2 terjadi pada Aisya dan sikap takut thd pedophile bener2 terjadi pada Aisya ...silakan buktikan Aisya mengalami trauma sexual abusement.


momon, mbok ojo ngono la, thnx alot atas pengakuan elo bahwa aisha dinikahi muhammad pada umo 9 tahun :wink:

sekarang gw tanya, wajarkah seorang nabi birahi dgn anak kecil????

semua orang akan berkata nabi elo yg gelo,masa nabi birahi pada anak kecil pula :lol: :lol:

ini bukan masalah apa2, tetapi kewajaran seorang "Nabi umo 53 taun yg birahi dgn anak kecil" itu saja questionnya, kalo ada orang umur 53 taun mau nikahin anak elo umo 9 taun elo mau tidak????? :lol: :lol:

sekarang zaman sudah berubah lo, otomatis orang yg berperkara ttg case nabi mu ya pasti jijik la :lol: :lol:
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Postby MONTIR KEPALA » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:07 pm

murtad mama wrote:
MONTIR KEPALA wrote:hadits2 semuanya bercerita AISYA dinikah Nabi Muhammad pada waktu 9 tahun .....
saya minta bukti Aisya dipaksa melakukan hubungan intim pada usia itu oleh Muhammad.

anak kecil yg dipaksa melakukan sex dgn dewasa dampak psikologisnya sangat kentara dan kuat ...berdasar data sebuah kelompok penyayang anak di Amerika rata2 mereka mengalami gangguan psikologis, traumatik mendalam hingga bunuh diri di kemudian hari.
sikap thd pedophile (yg sebagian besar seorang tokoh agamawan gereja) kaku, tegang, ketakutan yg sangat.

silakan gangguan psikologis itu bener2 terjadi pada Aisya dan sikap takut thd pedophile bener2 terjadi pada Aisya ...silakan buktikan Aisya mengalami trauma sexual abusement.


momon, mbok ojo ngono la, thnx alot atas pengakuan elo bahwa aisha dinikahi muhammad pada umo 9 tahun :wink:

sekarang gw tanya, wajarkah seorang nabi birahi dgn anak kecil????

semua orang akan berkata nabi elo yg gelo,masa nabi birahi pada anak kecil pula :lol: :lol:

ini bukan masalah apa2, tetapi kewajaran seorang "Nabi umo 53 taun yg birahi dgn anak kecil" itu saja questionnya, kalo ada orang umur 53 taun mau nikahin anak elo umo 9 taun elo mau tidak????? :lol: :lol:

sekarang zaman sudah berubah lo, otomatis orang yg berperkara ttg case nabi mu ya pasti jijik la :lol: :lol:

WAJAR jika pernikahan tsb untuk REKONSILIASI BANGSANYA ...

permasalahannya kan di sini adanya sexual abusement thd anak kecil ..SOOOOK buktikan ....
buktika Aisya korban dan mengalami error psikology dsb ...!!
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Re: Yo

Postby Gunawan » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:08 pm

Sebelum Aisya dilamar Nabi Muhammad, Umul Mukminin Aisyah ra telah dilamar oleh orang lain. Hal ini menunjukkan bahwa Aisyah memang sudah waktunya nikah dalam budaya Arab.

Selain itu isu Nabi Muhammad menikah dengan anak kecil berhembus baru-baru ini setelah orang kafir kehilangan akal untuk menghina Nabi Mulia.

Padahal sejarah mencatat pernikahan Rasulullah dengan Aisyah dengan berbagai versi mulai dari 6th, 9th, 16th, 22th. Namun bagi orang kafir (Kristen) sengaja memilih 6th. Tujuan mereka memang bukan mencari fakta kebenaran. Kebenaran bukan hal yang penting bagi orang-orang kristen saat ini. Buktinya ketika jelas-jelas menyembah patung anak manusia mereka tetap bangga. Peringatanpun tidak berguna. Jika kaum muslim memberikan peringatan kebencian mereka malah menjadi-jadi. Tidak puas dengan umpatan mereka memalsu Alquran, mendistorsi hadist, dan bahkan membuat gambar-gambar yang tidak senonoh. Kenapa kelakuan dan ahlak mereka sangat rendah. Hanya mereka yang bisa menjawab.
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Postby nasigoreng » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:18 pm

tokoh gereja beda sama pendiri agama kan ?
oke bandingkan deh, jesus sbg pendiri agama dengan muhammad sbg pendiri agama.

jesus paedophile? no!
muhammad paedophile? yes!

montir wrote :
hadits2 semuanya bercerita AISYA dinikah Nabi Muhammad pada waktu 9 tahun .....
saya minta bukti Aisya dipaksa melakukan hubungan intim pada usia itu oleh Muhammad.


pernah denger istilah hukum "dibawah pengampuan"? nah...anak umur 9 thn tetep dibilang seorang anak dan dia dibawah pengampuan orangtuanya.

kenapa gitu? krn secara mental seorang anak belum lah dapat untuk mengambil keputusan yang benar.

muhammad memang tidak memaksa aisha, betul!
tapi DIMATA HUKUM, tidak penting apakah muhammad memaksa atau tidak! karena jelas Muhammad meng-consummate aisha. artinya penetrasi dilakukan waktu perkawinan. padahal asiha msh umur 9 thn.

apakah aisha siap scr fisik dan mental? JELAS TIDAK! karena fakta berbicara bahwa aisha masih umur 9 thn, masih main2 boneka, mungkin masih punya teman imajinatif...

aisha yang polos, lugu, dan ngga ngerti arti sex, TERPAKSA mengerti arti sex dalam hubungan perkawinan, vaginanya TERPAKSA untuk menerima penis Muhammad (padahal dia sendiri blm ngerti apa itu penis dan apa itu vagina dalam hubungan nya dengan reproduksi) !!
mungkin ilustrasi malam pertamanya begini :

Muhammad : "say, aku masukkin ya brg ku ke goamu.."

aisha : "om, apaan tuh kok gede?"

Muhammad : "huss...aku bukan om mu, panggil aku suamimu ya?"

Aisha : iya tapi itu apa (sambil menunjuk pada onderdil Muhammad dengan muka lugu)? jadi inget uler kadut kemaren aye liat di gurun. bahaya tuh racun nya!

Muhammad : "udah ga usah banyak tanya, ini namanya uler kasur, racun nya mah ga bahaya neng. cmn bikin orang mual-mual selama 9 bulan!"

intinya, belum waktunya dia mengerti hal begituan. tapi terpaksa mengerti!


nah inikah nabi?
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Postby pemulihan » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:24 pm

Thx bang montir.
Tapi masih ingat pernyataan :
anak kecil yg dipaksa melakukan sex dgn dewasa dampak psikologisnya sangat kentara dan kuat ...berdasar data sebuah kelompok penyayang anak di Amerika rata2 mereka mengalami gangguan psikologis, traumatik mendalam hingga bunuh diri di kemudian hari.
sikap thd pedophile (yg sebagian besar seorang tokoh agamawan gereja) kaku, tegang, ketakutan yg sangat.

Yang saya cetak tebal ituloh yang saya minta data2nya.
Saya simpulkan web tersebut menceritakan tentang si Eric sang tokoh agama.
Gunawan wrote:Namun bagi orang kafir (Kristen) sengaja memilih 6th. Tujuan mereka memang bukan mencari fakta kebenaran. Kebenaran bukan hal yang penting bagi orang-orang kristen saat ini

Ini juga dasar komentarnya dari mana?
Udah pernah liat topik tentang umur Aisyah belum?
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Postby MONTIR KEPALA » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:34 pm

nasigoreng wrote:tokoh gereja beda sama pendiri agama kan ?
oke bandingkan deh, jesus sbg pendiri agama dengan muhammad sbg pendiri agama.
jesus paedophile? no!
muhammad paedophile? yes!...deleted....

ente tuh sadar gak sedang menyusahkan diri sendiri ...?
ilustrasi yg ente buat adalah GAYA SEMUA PEDOPHILE ...nah seharusnya Aisya sbg KOrban mengalami hal yg sama dgn korban2 yg lain...
bisa gak ente tunjukkan Aisya sbg korban ??...bukti coy !!
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Postby murtad mama » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:39 pm

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:WAJAR jika pernikahan tsb untuk REKONSILIASI BANGSANYA ...
permasalahannya kan di sini adanya sexual abusement thd anak kecil ..SOOOOK buktikan ....
buktika Aisya korban dan mengalami error psikology dsb ...!!

ini permasalah karena dia dapet wahyu 2 kali bahwa si momed itu menikahi anak kecil umo 9 taun kan????? trus apa reaksi Abu Bakr????
muhamamd menjawab "kamu adalah saudara dalam agama (Islam), dia (aisha) adalah milikku" si abe bakr lantas tak menolak lantaran muhammad ber title "Nabi"
ini adalah uji standarisasi kelayakan si bangkotan itu menisbatkan dirinya adalah nabi,tong
orang waras pon berfikir lain
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