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Hello Mr. Sina,
2005/10/22
Saya orang Indonesia, non-moslem, dan ayah saya baru saja meninggalkan Islam. Katanya, ajaranya tidak konsisten. Katanya dalam satu surah saja ada ayat yg melarang membunuh tetapi dalam ayat berikut isinya harus paksa non muslim agar masuk islam. Kalau tidak, kata ayat itu, ... bunuh si non-muslim !
Ayah saya memiliki banyak teman non-moslem dan tidak mengerti mengapa muslim harus bunuh non-moslem kalau mereka tidak mengganggu siapa2. Jadi, sekarang ia sudah meningalkan Islam dan memeluk budhisme. Sekarang ia lega, katanya, bisa dgn tenang hidup dgn orang lain agama. Tidak lagi ada yg menyuruhnya bunuh sana-sini.
DI negara saya banyak cowok muslim ingin menikah dgn cewek non-muslim tetapa karena para cowok kebanyakan berpendidikan lebih rendah dari para cewek, proyek mereka ini sering gagal. Cewek2 Indonesia jauh lebih berpendidikan dan tahu konsekwensinya kawin dgn muslim.
Cowok2 ini sering rendah pendidikan karena memang sesuai dgn ajaran Islam bahwa semua sudah ditakdirkan allah shg kita tidak perlu lagi berbuat apa2.
Terima kasih atas situs anda yg membeberkan sifat asli Islam.
Kadang saya merasa, cara terbaik menghindari tersebarnya islam adalah dgn emnciptakan mesin waktu shg kita bisa berjalan2 ke masa lalu dan MERACUNI MUHAMAD ! Mudah2an ini bisa terjadi ! Umat manusia selamat jadinya !
Candra
Pengakuan Candra
Re: Pengakuan Candra
Hehehe pengakuan yang lucu dari candra, apa ngak kebalik tuh banyak yang ingin menikahi muslimah seperti program kristenisasi hehehe kalau aku sih mau nikah ama non muslim asala seperti nafa bubrah itu hehehe.. tetapi si sinting ini (ali5196) direndahin ama candra juga seneng saja yang katanya pendidikannya rendah atau emang bener kali ya Li hehehe..sayang tidak ada komentar dari siraja iblis ali sina..
Re: Pengakuan Candra
Uyutku adalah muslim yang masuk Islam dan menjadi guru Injil. saudara2 ku menikah dengan Muslims yang menjadi Kristen.Orang tua mereka tidak berkeberatan.
Dua kawan saya masuk Kristen. Bukan karena missionary, tetapi karena melihat sendiri akan sikap hidup kami. Pada hal kami orang miskin.
Pernah saya tanyakan pada teman(madura) saya mengapa dia mau masuk kristen. Jawabnya bahwa sejak kecil dia selalu melihat anak2 Kristen masuk sekolah minggu kelihatannya pada senang. Dia juga lihat orang kristen masuk gereja pada bercampur wanita lelaki anak2 . kelihatannya semaua pada senang dan tertawa. dll.
Pada suatu hari pernah saya lihat seorang tukang buah (Muslim) mampir digereja dengan keranjang lalu bercakap2 dengan pendeta.
Saya melihatnya dari jauh, Menurut pendeta tukang buah itu menanyakan soal Kristiani.
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Dua kawan saya masuk Kristen. Bukan karena missionary, tetapi karena melihat sendiri akan sikap hidup kami. Pada hal kami orang miskin.
Pernah saya tanyakan pada teman(madura) saya mengapa dia mau masuk kristen. Jawabnya bahwa sejak kecil dia selalu melihat anak2 Kristen masuk sekolah minggu kelihatannya pada senang. Dia juga lihat orang kristen masuk gereja pada bercampur wanita lelaki anak2 . kelihatannya semaua pada senang dan tertawa. dll.
Pada suatu hari pernah saya lihat seorang tukang buah (Muslim) mampir digereja dengan keranjang lalu bercakap2 dengan pendeta.
Saya melihatnya dari jauh, Menurut pendeta tukang buah itu menanyakan soal Kristiani.
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Re: Pengakuan Candra
Go kamu ini lagi mengigau di siang bolong bangun dulu cuci muka, minum makan minum lagi baru nulis disini hehehe..., supaya lebih jelas lagi ok!
Memang bagi Muslims berita ini sukar ditelan, mereka secara psychology menilai kesaksian kafir selalu sebagai bohong karena mereflect karakternya yang pintar ngibul yang diajari oleh nabinya.
Tuhan mengetahui apa yang saya ceriterakan adalah benar. Terserah mau percaya atau tidak, pernyataan kalian akan tercermin pada hari pengadilan achirat. ingatlah itu !!
Muslims telah membuang waktu hidup yang berharga dengan mempercayakan nabi palsu yang hanya menghasilkan, terrorism, kebencian, kekerasan, penipuan, keterbelakangan dan sok suci or kemunafikan.
Tuhan mengetahui apa yang saya ceriterakan adalah benar. Terserah mau percaya atau tidak, pernyataan kalian akan tercermin pada hari pengadilan achirat. ingatlah itu !!
Muslims telah membuang waktu hidup yang berharga dengan mempercayakan nabi palsu yang hanya menghasilkan, terrorism, kebencian, kekerasan, penipuan, keterbelakangan dan sok suci or kemunafikan.
Kembali ke topik deh...Momed wrote:Jangan gitu dong boss mualaf.
Gitu gitu dago khan pernah ketemu angels waktu kecil naik sepedah.
Siapa tahu yang lagi ngomong sama boss mulaf salah satu dari angels tersebut.
Maaf bung Momed soalnya saya bingung, saya ngomongin candra yang lucu dan ali yang bloon kok tiba tiba si dago ngocehin keluarganya kan ngak nyambung hehehe..., kalau dia pernah ketemu angel hebat dong tapi apa bener angel jangan jangan iblis yang menyamar seperti malaikat terang hehehe...
Hahaha bung Momed kamu lucu banget aku suka banyolanmu, emang ya kalau aku rasa rasa 95 persen kafir itu ngomongnya ngak nyambung mungkin otak logikanya ngak jalan habis ngak pernah sujud jadi darahnya ngak masuk otak logikanya hahaha ampuun deh lucunya, tapi dalam hati yang paling dalam aku bener2 kasihan loh
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Mualaf wrote: emang ya kalau aku rasa rasa 95 persen kafir itu ngomongnya ngak nyambung mungkin otak logikanya ngak jalan habis ngak pernah sujud jadi darahnya ngak masuk otak logikanya hahaha ampuun deh lucunya, tapi dalam hati yang paling dalam aku bener2 kasihan loh
Sampurasun Mbah Alaf... ini tiyang badhe nanya ama Mbah jawab ya..
QUESTION
1. Gak nyambungan mana ama para ISLAM yang kebakaran jenggot karena logika nya bengkok dan otak tidak jalan setelah melihat "HANYA" gambar karikatur mohammad si dewa perang mereka di publish di koran?
2. Lebih kasihan mana dengan para manusia yang ngaku nya ISLAM 100% tapi 95% kaga ngarti bahasa ARAB, yang mana bahasa ARAB katanya merupakan bahasa satu-satunya yang syahih bagi QURAN, ISLAM dan AULLOH???
(catatan.. ngarti'in quran 100% aja kaga bisa apalagi mo nyambung ke logika
)3. Jika aulloh maha akbar, pintar dan maha tau .. kenapa Quran kudu diturunkan pake bahasa ARAB yang hanya 5% dari penduduk dunia dan kudu maksain orang laen agar ngartiin???
Ini dago terbukti main tuduh aja, berani bilang 'Bukankah ini terbukti...'dago wrote: Bukankah ini terbukti:
1. kamu ngibul typical isap jempol. inilah keunggulan Muslim/muslimah.
2. Kejahatan Agama islam expansi sambil ngerampok etniccleancing, menjarah, sehingga penduduknya dipaksa masuk Islam atau mirate ke negara lain. Sampai sekarang masih terjadi. Arab Kristen Iraq banyak pada keluar negeri karena terror Muslims jihadis sam bil membom gereja2. Inilah kebiadaban Islam.
Dago, benar temanku itu masuk islam dengan cara yang kusebutkan di atas. Itu pengakuan dia, tanpa kutambah-tambahi. Tapi untuk membeberkan detail dia di sini rasanya kurang etis. Aku mesti minta izin sama dia dulu. Sedikit informasi, ia berasal dari bogor. Ia cina.
Baru-baru ini juga ada teman buleku (australia) yang masuk islam. Tadinya karena pacaran sama cewek islam. Sekarang mereka sudah putus. Tapi temanku itu masih tetap rajin mempelajari alquran dan shalat ke mesjid.
ini lho tulisan orang yang ingin membela islam.... betul2 tulisan yang hebat dan mengesankan. karena sangat mudah dimengerti dan memiliki maksud yang pasti. yaitu mengolok-olok kesaksian orang lain.
ataukah memang orang MUSLIM itu tidak punya HATI seperti kata2 dan pengalaman orang Kafir seperti saya dan yang lainnya?
Sekilas :
walaupun saya bukan orang kristen tetapi saya pernah belajar Kristen sewaktu saya masih dibangku sekolah. asal tahu saja didalam kitab orang Kristen ada Deskripsi mengenai KAFIR, seingat saya mengenai kisah "ANAK YANG HILANG" dimana sang anak yang hilang adalah pendosa yang mau bertobat, sedangkan Saudara anak yang hilang ini adalah Orang yang merasa dirinya sudah benar dan menggangap Saudaranya adalah PENDOSA yang tidak layak diampuni oleh Bapaknya. dalam kisah ini disebutkan Saudara Pendosa inilah Sang KAFIRRRRR. apabila ditelaah dari cerita tersebut maka bisa disimpulkan orang yang merasa dirinya selalu benar dan orang lain adalah salah, maka sebenarnya dialah orang KAFIR itu menurut versi Bible.
TETAPI APAKAH ORANG KRISTEN PERNAH MENYEBUT ORANG ISLAM SEBAGAI KAFIR PADAHAL VERSI BIBLE BILANG BEGITU ??? ini adalah salah satu bentuk kerendahan hati. dan saya sangat menghormati kerendahan hati bukan menang sendiri dan suka-suka sendiri tanpa peduli perasaan orang.
Bukankah Agama Islam identik dengan SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI ? Parahnya SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI nya itu sambil bawa-bawa nama Tuhannya.
Berarti TUHANNYA orang ISLAM itu juga SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI !!!!!!
Terus terang saya tidak bisa menerima TUHAN YANG SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI.
Kalau orang-orang islam bilang banyak orang-orang beragama kristen seperti Amerika,inggris,DKK seenak Udelnya sendiri SAYA SETUJU.
Tetapi mereka SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI nya itu tidak membawa-bawa nama TUHAN. yang SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI itu Bush,DKK yang kebetulan beragama kristen. Beda dengan ISLAM karena dalam ISLAM yang SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI ITU YA ISLAMNYA, UMATNYA, NABINYA, DAN AULOHNYA KARENA ADA DALAM SUNAH,QURAN,KEJADIAN NYATA jelas terlihat kesemena-menaan mereka.
Mualaf wrote:Hehehe pengakuan yang lucu dari candra, apa ngak kebalik tuh banyak yang ingin menikahi muslimah seperti program kristenisasi hehehe kalau aku sih mau nikah ama non muslim asala seperti nafa bubrah itu hehehe.. tetapi si sinting ini (ali5196) direndahin ama candra juga seneng saja yang katanya pendidikannya rendah atau emang bener kali ya Li hehehe..sayang tidak ada komentar dari siraja iblis ali sina..
Mualaf wrote:Go kamu ini lagi mengigau di siang bolong bangun dulu cuci muka, minum makan minum lagi baru nulis disini hehehe..., supaya lebih jelas lagi ok!
Mualaf wrote:REGGIE KENAPA TIDAK BERANDAI ANDAI LAGI????????????????? KENA BATUNYA YA....
HE...HE,.... HE...HE...., JADI TERINGAT DEH......., AKU SETIAP LIAT POSTINGAN REGGIE.... MAKA AKU JADI TERINGAT ANDAI ANDAINYA..... LAU KEMUDIAN TERINGAT **** DEH AKHIRNYA......
HUA.....HUA.....HUA.....HUA....HUA....HUA.....
Mualaf wrote:Kembali ke topik deh...
Maaf bung Momed soalnya saya bingung, saya ngomongin candra yang lucu dan ali yang bloon kok tiba tiba si dago ngocehin keluarganya kan ngak nyambung hehehe..., kalau dia pernah ketemu angel hebat dong tapi apa bener angel jangan jangan iblis yang menyamar seperti malaikat terang hehehe...
Mualaf wrote:Hahaha bung Momed kamu lucu banget aku suka banyolanmu, emang ya kalau aku rasa rasa 95 persen kafir itu ngomongnya ngak nyambung mungkin otak logikanya ngak jalan habis ngak pernah sujud jadi darahnya ngak masuk otak logikanya hahaha ampuun deh lucunya, tapi dalam hati yang paling dalam aku bener2 kasihan loh
saya melihat di forum ini anda yang pertama menanggapi tulisan pak ALI. tetapi saya betul2 tidak mengerti anda itu menulis apa? semuanya berisi olok-olokan dan tidak ada satupun kata2 intelektual keluar dari postingan anda. apakah anda tidak bisa sedikit saja memberikan pernyataan yang tulus dan intelek dari hati anda sebagai seorang MUSLIM?Mualaf wrote:Wah nenek ceriwis marah, karena anjing2nya dikritik
ataukah memang orang MUSLIM itu tidak punya HATI seperti kata2 dan pengalaman orang Kafir seperti saya dan yang lainnya?
Sekilas :
walaupun saya bukan orang kristen tetapi saya pernah belajar Kristen sewaktu saya masih dibangku sekolah. asal tahu saja didalam kitab orang Kristen ada Deskripsi mengenai KAFIR, seingat saya mengenai kisah "ANAK YANG HILANG" dimana sang anak yang hilang adalah pendosa yang mau bertobat, sedangkan Saudara anak yang hilang ini adalah Orang yang merasa dirinya sudah benar dan menggangap Saudaranya adalah PENDOSA yang tidak layak diampuni oleh Bapaknya. dalam kisah ini disebutkan Saudara Pendosa inilah Sang KAFIRRRRR. apabila ditelaah dari cerita tersebut maka bisa disimpulkan orang yang merasa dirinya selalu benar dan orang lain adalah salah, maka sebenarnya dialah orang KAFIR itu menurut versi Bible.
TETAPI APAKAH ORANG KRISTEN PERNAH MENYEBUT ORANG ISLAM SEBAGAI KAFIR PADAHAL VERSI BIBLE BILANG BEGITU ??? ini adalah salah satu bentuk kerendahan hati. dan saya sangat menghormati kerendahan hati bukan menang sendiri dan suka-suka sendiri tanpa peduli perasaan orang.
Bukankah Agama Islam identik dengan SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI ? Parahnya SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI nya itu sambil bawa-bawa nama Tuhannya.
Berarti TUHANNYA orang ISLAM itu juga SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI !!!!!!
Terus terang saya tidak bisa menerima TUHAN YANG SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI.
Kalau orang-orang islam bilang banyak orang-orang beragama kristen seperti Amerika,inggris,DKK seenak Udelnya sendiri SAYA SETUJU.
Tetapi mereka SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI nya itu tidak membawa-bawa nama TUHAN. yang SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI itu Bush,DKK yang kebetulan beragama kristen. Beda dengan ISLAM karena dalam ISLAM yang SEENAK UDELNYA SENDIRI ITU YA ISLAMNYA, UMATNYA, NABINYA, DAN AULOHNYA KARENA ADA DALAM SUNAH,QURAN,KEJADIAN NYATA jelas terlihat kesemena-menaan mereka.
aRif eh.. Reggie, undang2 donk teman2 lo main ke sini itung2 dalam rangka mempertebal iman dan tembok
Ngomong2 itu peta yang di Alkitab kaya gini bentuknya apa ya?
Rahmatan lil' alamin (gue gak yakin kalau para pedagang Gujarat menyebarkan Islam gak pakai cara ngibulin rakyat Nusantara yang polos beragama Hindu/Budha)
Qur’an 7:3 “Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them.”
Brutal Barbaric Offensive Onslaught in Middle East, North Africa, Persia by Arab Muslim Forces
"The Rightly Guided Caliphs" by Dr. Abu Zayd Shalabi
Dr. Abu Zayd Shalabi discusses the Islamic wars which were initiated by the four caliphs who succeeded Muhammad.
Attack On Syria
On pages 35-38, Dr. Abu Zayd remarks,
"Muhammad had prepared an army to invade the borders of Syria. When Muhammad died Abu Bakr sent an army headed by Usama Ibn Zayd and 'Umar Ibn al-Khattab. The army marched towards southern Palestine and invaded some parts of the land, frightened the people and captured some booty."
Attack on Persia
At the beginning of page 70, Dr. Abu Zayd talks about the Islamic conquests and indicates that at the inception of the year 12 of Hajira, Abu Bakr ordered Khalid Ibn al-Walid to invade Persian lands and to seize the ports near Iraq. Khalid marched with the army, but before he started the war, he sent his famous message to Hermez, one of the Iraqi generals, "Embrace Islam, or pay the poll-tax, or fight." The Hermez declined to accept any of these terms but war. The Persians were defeated in this battle and Khalid seized the booty and sent Abu Bakr one-fifth of the spoils of war, exactly as they were accustomed to send to Muhammad. One-fifth of the booty belonged to God and to Muhammad.
(agama kaya gini nih? agama apa rezim maruk?)
Abu Bakr presented Khalid with the Hermez's tiara which was inlaid with gems. Dr. Abu Zayd says the value of the gems amounted to 100,000 dirham (p. 73). After that, the successful, savage invasions continued against other countries which could not repel the forces of Islam. This Azhar scholar tells us that in the battle of Alees which took place on the border of Iraq, Khalid killed 70,000 people! He was so brutal in his attack that the nearby river was mixed with their blood (p. 75).
On p. 77, Dr. Abu Zayd mentions another country which surrendered to Khalid. Khalid demanded that they pay 190,000 dirhams. When he attacked Ayn al-Tamr in Iraq, its people took shelter in one of the fortresses. Khalid laid siege to the fortress and forced them to come out. He killed all of them mercilessly. They had done nothing against him or against the Muslims except that they refused to embrace Islam and to recognize Muhammad as an apostle of God. The Muslims seized all that they found in the fortress along with forty young men who were studying the Gospel. Khalid captured them and divided them among the Muslims (refer to p. 81).
(Betapa toleransinya oh, Islam...)
On page 134, Abu Zayd relates that when Khalid besieged another town called Qinnasrin which belonged to the Byzantine Empire, its people were so afraid that they hid themselves from him. He sent them a message in which he said: "Even if you hide in the cloud, God will lift us up to you or He will lower you down to us." They asked for a peace treaty, but he refused and killed them all. Then he eradicated the town. These are the words of Dr. Abu Zayd which we faithfully relay to you.
The Invasion of Damascus
On pages 131 and 132 of the same book, "The Rightly Guided Caliphs," the author indicates,
"Abu 'Ubayda marched towards Damascus and besieged it for seventy nights. He cut off all supplies while its inhabitants were pleading for help and assistance. Then Khalid attacked the city and massacred thousands of people. (They were forced) to ask for a peace treaty. Abu 'Ubayda turned over the rule of Damascus to Yazid and ordered him to invade the neighboring (cities). He attacked Sidon, Beirut, and others."
The Attack on Jerusalem
On pages 136 and 137, we read about the attack of 'Umru Ibn al-'as on Jerusalem. He besieged it for four months. Then its Christian inhabitants agreed to pay the poll-tax and to surrender to 'Umar Ibn al-Khattab, the caliph. 'Umar made the trip to Jerusalem and laid the foundation of the mosque. With that, the conquest of Syria was accomplished, but as the pestilence (plague) raged, many of the high-ranking generals of the Islamic army died, among them Abu Ubayda, Yazid and Sharahbil.
The Invasion of Wealthy Egypt
On pages 141 and 142, the author narrates how the invasion and occupation of Egypt were accomplished. Among the justifications which 'Umru Ibn al-'As presented to 'Umar which convinced him to allow 'Umru to attack Egypt were the following:
"Egypt's abundance and yields are plentiful. The conquest of Egypt would gain for the Muslims a foothold in Syria and make it easier for them to invade Africa to spread Islam."
It is important to mark 'Umru's statement that "Egypt's abundance and yields are plentiful." Eventually Egypt and Africa were both conquered.
On pages 145 and 146, the professor of civilization at the Azhar relates how 'Umru besieged the Fortress of Babylon (south of ancient Egypt) for a full month, and that he said to the messengers of the Muqawqis, the governor of Egypt,
"There is nothing between us and you except three things:
(1) Embrace Islam, become our brethren and you will have what we have and you will be subjected to what we are subjected (in this case they would pay alms to the treasury of the state).
(2) If you refuse that, you are obligated to pay tribute with humiliation.
(3) War.
"The Muqawqis attempted to offer them something different, but they rejected it. At last, after a fight, he accepted the second condition, namely to pay tribute and to be subjugated to Islamic rule. The Muslims entered Egypt. "
During the Caliphate of ' Uthman Ibn 'Affan
On pages 167 and 168, the book tells us:
"'Uthman ordered 'Abdalla Ibn Abi al-Sarh to invade Africa, then he sent Abdalla Ibn al-Zubayr. They slaughtered thousands of the people among them their king, Jayan, and they captured booty."
Attack on Byzantine Empire
"The Beginning and the End," by Ibn Kathir (vol. 7)
"'The Blood of the Byzantine is more delicious', Khalid said!"
On page 10, Ibn Khathir tells us that when the Byzantine leaders rejected Islam or paying tribute, Khalid told them,
"We are people who drink blood. We were told that there is no blood that is more delicious than the blood of the Byzantines."
Such words well suit people like Khalid, Muhammad's beloved friend and relative.
On page 13 we read the following,
"Gregorius, one of the great princes of the Byzantines, said to Khalid: 'What do you call us for?' Khalid answered him: 'That you testify that there is no God but the only God and that Muhammad is His messenger and apostle, and to acknowledge all that Muhammad received from God (namely pilgrimage, fasting of Ramadan, etc.).' Gregorius said to him: 'And if these are not accepted?' Khalid responded, 'Then pay the tribute.' Gregorius said to him: 'If we do not give the tribute?' Khalid said: 'Then war!"' --> Mentalitas Islam sampai detik ini
Ibn Kathir acknowledges (on page 21) that when the Muslims conquered Damascus, they seized St. John's church and converted it into the largest mosque in Damascus today (The Umayyad Mosque) (-> Gak malu kan loo? Bangga ye jadi muslim? Subhanallah). On page 55, we read also about the invasion of Jerusalem. On page 123, he states,
"Umar Ibn al-Khattab wrote to Abdil-Rahman Ibn Rabi'a ordering him to invade the Turks (Turkey today)."
The Second Invasion of Africa
In page 165 Ibn Kathir records for us that:
"The second invasion of Africa was accomplished because its people broke their pledge. That was in year 33 of the Hajira (The Moslem Calendar)."
Of course, the people of Africa broke the pledge because that pledge was imposed on them by force in lieu of death. Yet Muslims killed thousands of them. Ibn Kathir already mentioned in page 151 that,
"'Uthman Ibn 'Affan ordered 'Abdalla Ibn Sa'd to invade Africa. [He told him] 'If you conquer it take 1/25 of its booty.' 'Abdalla Ibn Sa'd marched towards it at the head of an army of 20,000 soldiers. He conquered it and killed multitudes of people from among its inhabitants until the remnant were converted to Islam and became subject to the Arabs. 'Abdalla took his portion of the booty as 'Uthman told him, then he divided the rest."
How unfortunate were the African people! They were invaded by the Arabs who killed thousands of them, divided the booty, and forced the remnant to embrace Islam. When they broke the pact, the Muslims attacked them again. But are the black African people the only unfortunate people? Or are all the people of Jordan, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Libya, all the Arab tribes, Spain, even the people of China and India, Cyprus and the Kurds, all the unfortunate peoples? All of these are unfortunate nations who became the victims of Islamic Law which detests human rights and persistently ignores their freedom.
The Invasion of Cyprus and the Kurds
Ibn Kathir tells us that in the year 28 of the Hajira, the conquest of Cyprus was accomplished after 'Abdulla Ibn al-Zubayr slaughtered a multitude of people-as usual. Ibn Khaldun also tells the story of the Kurds. In page 124 of Vol. II, he says,
"Muslims met a number of Kurds. They called them to embrace Islam or pay the tribute. When they refused to do so they killed them and captured their women and children, then divided the booty."
A brief summary which Taqiy al-Din al-Nabahani presents in his book, "The Islamic State" (pp. 121 and 122). He summarizes the history of Islamic offensive wars against the neighboring peaceful countries by saying,
"Muhammad had begun to send troops and initiate campaigns against the Syrian borders such as the campaign of Mu'ta and Tabuk. Then the rightly guided caliphs ruled after him and the conquest continued. (The Arabs) conquered Iraq, Persia, and Syria whose faith was Christianity and which were inhabited by the Syrians, Armenians, some Jews and some Byzantines. Then Egypt and North Africa were conquered. When the Umayyad took over after the rightly guided caliphs, they conquered the Sind, Khawarizm, and Samarqand. They annexed them to the lands of the Islamic state."
http://www.derafsh-kaviyani.com/english ... islam.html
Begitulah kisahnya, oleh karena itu seluruh umat manusia dengan sukarela menerima penyebaran penyakit kanker Hidayatullah. Hayo jingkrak2 donk pake irama gambus padang pasir! :oops: :oops: :D :D he he hehe (seperti kebiasaan netter muslim hehe.. hehe.. :D :mrgreen: )
Ngomong2 itu peta yang di Alkitab kaya gini bentuknya apa ya?
Rahmatan lil' alamin (gue gak yakin kalau para pedagang Gujarat menyebarkan Islam gak pakai cara ngibulin rakyat Nusantara yang polos beragama Hindu/Budha)
Qur’an 7:3 “Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them.”
Brutal Barbaric Offensive Onslaught in Middle East, North Africa, Persia by Arab Muslim Forces
"The Rightly Guided Caliphs" by Dr. Abu Zayd Shalabi
Dr. Abu Zayd Shalabi discusses the Islamic wars which were initiated by the four caliphs who succeeded Muhammad.
Attack On Syria
On pages 35-38, Dr. Abu Zayd remarks,
"Muhammad had prepared an army to invade the borders of Syria. When Muhammad died Abu Bakr sent an army headed by Usama Ibn Zayd and 'Umar Ibn al-Khattab. The army marched towards southern Palestine and invaded some parts of the land, frightened the people and captured some booty."
Attack on Persia
At the beginning of page 70, Dr. Abu Zayd talks about the Islamic conquests and indicates that at the inception of the year 12 of Hajira, Abu Bakr ordered Khalid Ibn al-Walid to invade Persian lands and to seize the ports near Iraq. Khalid marched with the army, but before he started the war, he sent his famous message to Hermez, one of the Iraqi generals, "Embrace Islam, or pay the poll-tax, or fight." The Hermez declined to accept any of these terms but war. The Persians were defeated in this battle and Khalid seized the booty and sent Abu Bakr one-fifth of the spoils of war, exactly as they were accustomed to send to Muhammad. One-fifth of the booty belonged to God and to Muhammad.
(agama kaya gini nih? agama apa rezim maruk?)
Abu Bakr presented Khalid with the Hermez's tiara which was inlaid with gems. Dr. Abu Zayd says the value of the gems amounted to 100,000 dirham (p. 73). After that, the successful, savage invasions continued against other countries which could not repel the forces of Islam. This Azhar scholar tells us that in the battle of Alees which took place on the border of Iraq, Khalid killed 70,000 people! He was so brutal in his attack that the nearby river was mixed with their blood (p. 75).
On p. 77, Dr. Abu Zayd mentions another country which surrendered to Khalid. Khalid demanded that they pay 190,000 dirhams. When he attacked Ayn al-Tamr in Iraq, its people took shelter in one of the fortresses. Khalid laid siege to the fortress and forced them to come out. He killed all of them mercilessly. They had done nothing against him or against the Muslims except that they refused to embrace Islam and to recognize Muhammad as an apostle of God. The Muslims seized all that they found in the fortress along with forty young men who were studying the Gospel. Khalid captured them and divided them among the Muslims (refer to p. 81).
(Betapa toleransinya oh, Islam...)
On page 134, Abu Zayd relates that when Khalid besieged another town called Qinnasrin which belonged to the Byzantine Empire, its people were so afraid that they hid themselves from him. He sent them a message in which he said: "Even if you hide in the cloud, God will lift us up to you or He will lower you down to us." They asked for a peace treaty, but he refused and killed them all. Then he eradicated the town. These are the words of Dr. Abu Zayd which we faithfully relay to you.
The Invasion of Damascus
On pages 131 and 132 of the same book, "The Rightly Guided Caliphs," the author indicates,
"Abu 'Ubayda marched towards Damascus and besieged it for seventy nights. He cut off all supplies while its inhabitants were pleading for help and assistance. Then Khalid attacked the city and massacred thousands of people. (They were forced) to ask for a peace treaty. Abu 'Ubayda turned over the rule of Damascus to Yazid and ordered him to invade the neighboring (cities). He attacked Sidon, Beirut, and others."
The Attack on Jerusalem
On pages 136 and 137, we read about the attack of 'Umru Ibn al-'as on Jerusalem. He besieged it for four months. Then its Christian inhabitants agreed to pay the poll-tax and to surrender to 'Umar Ibn al-Khattab, the caliph. 'Umar made the trip to Jerusalem and laid the foundation of the mosque. With that, the conquest of Syria was accomplished, but as the pestilence (plague) raged, many of the high-ranking generals of the Islamic army died, among them Abu Ubayda, Yazid and Sharahbil.
The Invasion of Wealthy Egypt
On pages 141 and 142, the author narrates how the invasion and occupation of Egypt were accomplished. Among the justifications which 'Umru Ibn al-'As presented to 'Umar which convinced him to allow 'Umru to attack Egypt were the following:
"Egypt's abundance and yields are plentiful. The conquest of Egypt would gain for the Muslims a foothold in Syria and make it easier for them to invade Africa to spread Islam."
It is important to mark 'Umru's statement that "Egypt's abundance and yields are plentiful." Eventually Egypt and Africa were both conquered.
On pages 145 and 146, the professor of civilization at the Azhar relates how 'Umru besieged the Fortress of Babylon (south of ancient Egypt) for a full month, and that he said to the messengers of the Muqawqis, the governor of Egypt,
"There is nothing between us and you except three things:
(1) Embrace Islam, become our brethren and you will have what we have and you will be subjected to what we are subjected (in this case they would pay alms to the treasury of the state).
(2) If you refuse that, you are obligated to pay tribute with humiliation.
(3) War.
"The Muqawqis attempted to offer them something different, but they rejected it. At last, after a fight, he accepted the second condition, namely to pay tribute and to be subjugated to Islamic rule. The Muslims entered Egypt. "
During the Caliphate of ' Uthman Ibn 'Affan
On pages 167 and 168, the book tells us:
"'Uthman ordered 'Abdalla Ibn Abi al-Sarh to invade Africa, then he sent Abdalla Ibn al-Zubayr. They slaughtered thousands of the people among them their king, Jayan, and they captured booty."
Attack on Byzantine Empire
"The Beginning and the End," by Ibn Kathir (vol. 7)
"'The Blood of the Byzantine is more delicious', Khalid said!"
On page 10, Ibn Khathir tells us that when the Byzantine leaders rejected Islam or paying tribute, Khalid told them,
"We are people who drink blood. We were told that there is no blood that is more delicious than the blood of the Byzantines."
Such words well suit people like Khalid, Muhammad's beloved friend and relative.
On page 13 we read the following,
"Gregorius, one of the great princes of the Byzantines, said to Khalid: 'What do you call us for?' Khalid answered him: 'That you testify that there is no God but the only God and that Muhammad is His messenger and apostle, and to acknowledge all that Muhammad received from God (namely pilgrimage, fasting of Ramadan, etc.).' Gregorius said to him: 'And if these are not accepted?' Khalid responded, 'Then pay the tribute.' Gregorius said to him: 'If we do not give the tribute?' Khalid said: 'Then war!"' --> Mentalitas Islam sampai detik ini
Ibn Kathir acknowledges (on page 21) that when the Muslims conquered Damascus, they seized St. John's church and converted it into the largest mosque in Damascus today (The Umayyad Mosque) (-> Gak malu kan loo? Bangga ye jadi muslim? Subhanallah). On page 55, we read also about the invasion of Jerusalem. On page 123, he states,
"Umar Ibn al-Khattab wrote to Abdil-Rahman Ibn Rabi'a ordering him to invade the Turks (Turkey today)."
The Second Invasion of Africa
In page 165 Ibn Kathir records for us that:
"The second invasion of Africa was accomplished because its people broke their pledge. That was in year 33 of the Hajira (The Moslem Calendar)."
Of course, the people of Africa broke the pledge because that pledge was imposed on them by force in lieu of death. Yet Muslims killed thousands of them. Ibn Kathir already mentioned in page 151 that,
"'Uthman Ibn 'Affan ordered 'Abdalla Ibn Sa'd to invade Africa. [He told him] 'If you conquer it take 1/25 of its booty.' 'Abdalla Ibn Sa'd marched towards it at the head of an army of 20,000 soldiers. He conquered it and killed multitudes of people from among its inhabitants until the remnant were converted to Islam and became subject to the Arabs. 'Abdalla took his portion of the booty as 'Uthman told him, then he divided the rest."
How unfortunate were the African people! They were invaded by the Arabs who killed thousands of them, divided the booty, and forced the remnant to embrace Islam. When they broke the pact, the Muslims attacked them again. But are the black African people the only unfortunate people? Or are all the people of Jordan, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Libya, all the Arab tribes, Spain, even the people of China and India, Cyprus and the Kurds, all the unfortunate peoples? All of these are unfortunate nations who became the victims of Islamic Law which detests human rights and persistently ignores their freedom.
The Invasion of Cyprus and the Kurds
Ibn Kathir tells us that in the year 28 of the Hajira, the conquest of Cyprus was accomplished after 'Abdulla Ibn al-Zubayr slaughtered a multitude of people-as usual. Ibn Khaldun also tells the story of the Kurds. In page 124 of Vol. II, he says,
"Muslims met a number of Kurds. They called them to embrace Islam or pay the tribute. When they refused to do so they killed them and captured their women and children, then divided the booty."
A brief summary which Taqiy al-Din al-Nabahani presents in his book, "The Islamic State" (pp. 121 and 122). He summarizes the history of Islamic offensive wars against the neighboring peaceful countries by saying,
"Muhammad had begun to send troops and initiate campaigns against the Syrian borders such as the campaign of Mu'ta and Tabuk. Then the rightly guided caliphs ruled after him and the conquest continued. (The Arabs) conquered Iraq, Persia, and Syria whose faith was Christianity and which were inhabited by the Syrians, Armenians, some Jews and some Byzantines. Then Egypt and North Africa were conquered. When the Umayyad took over after the rightly guided caliphs, they conquered the Sind, Khawarizm, and Samarqand. They annexed them to the lands of the Islamic state."
http://www.derafsh-kaviyani.com/english ... islam.html
Begitulah kisahnya, oleh karena itu seluruh umat manusia dengan sukarela menerima penyebaran penyakit kanker Hidayatullah. Hayo jingkrak2 donk pake irama gambus padang pasir! :oops: :oops: :D :D he he hehe (seperti kebiasaan netter muslim hehe.. hehe.. :D :mrgreen: )
Oh Perang Saaliiibb? Itu dimulainya karena apa ya?
Karena buntut kejadian2 di peta itu bukan ya? Oh bukan.. ternyata Kristen memang dari sononya biadab krn menolak Islam ya? .. jadi Islam itu benar... ya kan? Baca'in donk sejarah awalnya perang salib, sebab musababnya, dll.
Jadi jawab dulu pertanyaanku.. tanggapan reggie mengenai isi bacaan yang pertama aku kirim dulu gimana? senang? gembira? pakai irama padang pasir? atau gimana nich?
Karena buntut kejadian2 di peta itu bukan ya? Oh bukan.. ternyata Kristen memang dari sononya biadab krn menolak Islam ya? .. jadi Islam itu benar... ya kan? Baca'in donk sejarah awalnya perang salib, sebab musababnya, dll.
Jadi jawab dulu pertanyaanku.. tanggapan reggie mengenai isi bacaan yang pertama aku kirim dulu gimana? senang? gembira? pakai irama padang pasir? atau gimana nich?
Tentang irama, itu bisa kita atur. Aku tidak sedih, juga tidak gembira. Itulah sejarah. Aku tidak bisa menangisi dinosaurus yang sudah punah. Indian dan aborigin yang kehilangan tanahnya dst. Kembali ke peta, cerita tentang temanku itu sungguh2 terjadi. Ia dapat hidayah dari melihat peta. fren kristen?
reggie wrote:Seorang temanku kristenku masuk islam katanya gara-gara liat-liat halaman belakang alkitab yang ada gambar petanya. Ia perhatikan, kok di daerah asal kristen itu sekarang sedikit sekali penganut kristennya. Termasuk di israel.
Hidayah memang bisa datang kapan saja dan dengan cara apa saja.
Banyak cara yang membuat seseorang untuk terpanggil atau terbuang.
Saya pernah baca seseorang yang menjadi Kristen hanya karena sistem penanggalan. Koq yang berlaku sekarang diistilahin BC (Before Christ) dan AD (Anno Domini) - tahun hadirnya tuhan. Atau SM (Sebelum Masehi) dan Sesudah Masehi. Apakah arti masehi ? (Kamus Indonesia Inggris John M Echols dan Hassan Shadily - masehi : Christian ; Maseh : Jesus, the Messiah)
Koq ndak tahun Hijrah yang kepake ?
Koq ndak SM (Sebelum Muhammad ?)
Hari, bulan dan tahun adalah berdasarkan fenomena alam. Rotasi bumi, revolusi bulan terhadap bumi dan revolusi bumi terhadap matahari. Tapi dari manakah asalnya Minggu ? Kenapa satu Minggu koq tujuh hari ? Koq ndak 5 hari ?
Mungkin ini tugas baru bagi umat moslem, selain untuk membunuh Yahudi, mengislamkan sistem pemerintahan seluruh dunia, sekarang adalah menset sistem penanggalan menjadi tahun Hijriah.
Kesadaran yang sangat sederhana, dari peta di alkitab atau dari sistem penanggalan
Tapi seorang Candra meninggalkan Islam adalah berdasrkan kesadaran betapa ajaran ajaran agamanya bisa menstimulasi orang untuk melakukan suatu kekejaman. Ajaran yang terus berlaku sampai kapanpun dan dimanapun.
Be alert, brother...