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Sources of Islam part: 1

1-From the Taurât and the psalms

As mentioned in the following verses;
The Most High chapter (Surat Al-A'laa) 18:" This is in the former Scriptures, the Scriptures of Ibrahim and Moses"
The former scriptures are those scriptures descended before the quran

The Star chapter (Surat An-Najm) 36:"Or is he was not informed with what is in the Pages (Scripture) of Moses, And of Ibrahim"

Of those examples:
1) The story of the creation:,
Mentioned in the book of genesis chapter 1 " In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
And also in the cattle chapter (Surat Al-An'am) 73:"It is he who has created the heavens and the earth"

2) The creation of the world in six days
Mentioned in the book of genesis chapter 1
And also in iron chapter (Surat Al-Hadid) 4:" it is him who created the heavens and the earth in six Days"

3) Adam and Eva:
In the book of genesis chapter 1: 26, 2:18
And in the cow chapter (Surat Al-Baqarah) 30 and the next verses

4) The story of Cain and Abel
In the book of genesis chapter 4,
And also mentioned in the quran but he called Cain as Cabell but Cain is the original Hebrew word

5) Noah and the flooding
It was mention in the quran but it said that one of Noah's sons perished, which was not mentioned in the Holy Bible, as all of Noah's sons were saved

- Also we have the story of Ibrahim mentioned in the book of genesis in the Holy Bible and in the cow chapter (Surat Al-Baqarah) in the quran

- The story of Lot mentioned in the book of genesis in the Holy Bible and in Hud chapter

- The story of Jacob / Israel in the book of genesis in the Holy Bible and in the Ranks (Surat As-Saffaat) in the quran

- The story of Moses and Pharaoh, the pillar of cloud, the manna and the quail and the rock and the story of the golden calf those mentioned in the book of exodus in the Holy Bible they were mentioned also in cow chapter (Surat Al-Baqarah) in the quran

- The revelation of God to Moses mentioned in the book of exodus in the Holy Bible, it was also mentioned in cow chapter (Surat Al-Baqarah) and the narration chapter (Surat Al-Qasas) in the quran

It was estimated that about 170 quotations from the Holy Bible are present in he quran


2-From the legendaries and popular tales

As those quoted from the Jewish Talmud named the Babylian Talmud

There are 9 chapters in the quran that's showing that he quoted from the ancient legendaries ;
of them the Believers chapter (Surat Al-Mu'minun), the Criterion Chapter (Surat Al-Furqan) and the Ants chapter (Surat An-Naml)

Abdullah Yousef Ali said in his exegesis, page 1382:"the quran had quoted lot of things from the Simian tales book

There was a book in Greek and was published in London, about it he said that it seems that this book is of Hebrew origin
He also pointed to the Jewish Madras in page 1638

As examples of those quotations:
1) Cabell's learning from a crow the way of burying his brother
Mentioned in the table chapter (Surat Al-Ma'idah') it was quoted from a Hebrew book named (Arke Rabae Ali Azar) chapter 21

2) The legendary of Nimrod and his casting of Ibrahim in the fire and he was not burned
In a Hebrew book named (Madras Rabani)

3) Salmon's meeting with the Jinn, demons, birds and hoopoe, and their bringing of the thorn of Saab's queen
This legendary exists in the Jewish torjoum (torjoum shame) for the book of Esther

4) The presence of lust in the two angels Harût and Marût and their drinking of wine, committing adultery, killing and preaching Magic to people
It was quoted from a Hebrew book named (Madras Yalkout)

5) The rise of the mountain over the heads of the Jewish
It was quoted from a Hebrew book named (Aboudah Zarah) chapter 2, page 45

6) Transforming the Jewish to monkeys
In the exegesis of Abdullah Yousef Ali, page 34, he said it was quoted from a Jewish legendary

7) The seven skies
That's a legendary present in a Hebrew book named (Hethika), chapter 9, and page 2

8) The seven gates of the hell:
In a Jewish book named (Zouhar)

9) The flooding of Noah was mad of boiling water
In the exegesis of Rashi (Hebrew annotator) for the book of genesis

10) The preserved tablet
It is quoted from a Hebrew book named (Flaky Abroud), chapter 5, and page 6
Those stories and others are legendaries not mentioned in the holy Books
The question is does god put legendaries in his book?


How did the prophet know about those stories?
The prophet knew about those stories from the Jews who were contemporary to him, with them he had many relations

Sheikh Khalil Abdul-Kareem said in his book " the genesis period in the life of the honest and truthful" , page 95:
" Miss Khadija allowed the prophet Muhammad to be in contact with the priest Waraqa Ibn Nofal her cousin , another friends like Addas and monk Bohyra , he spent long nights with Warqa Ibn Nofal discussing with him and he mixed with all rites , denominations and religions present at that time.
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Sources of Islam part: 2

3-From Persian and Zerdeshtian Sources

Through scientific and logic researches, it was found, that the Persian and Zerdeshtian cultures are the origin of many things in Islam.

Examples for that are:

1) The story of Isra' and Me'raj (the midnight journey of Prophet Muhammad)

The origin of that story was found in the Persian legendaries in a Persian book named (Arta Wiraf Namak)

It was a legendary story narrating that the Zerdeshtian religion was markedly retrogressing, then a man named Arta Wiraf went to the Zerdeshtian god, an arch- angel named Sardis met him, and introduced him to the Zerdeshtian divine glory named Urmest, he reached him, saw him and reached the Me'raj, god Urmest blessed him then sent him back to strengthen the Zerdeshtian faith

The story existed in the old Persian culture (behloian) 400 years before Islam

In that book, chapter 7, paragraph 1- 4, Arta Wiraf said: I put my first step to reach the stars layer, I saw the souls of those holy people who are emitting light like a shinning planet , there was a throne , I asked the angel Azar the angel of fire about that place and those people , finally the arch-angel stood up of his throne decorated with gold and took my hand and got me into the presence of Zuricht the second , the mind and the cognition, then Behmen said this is Armontz , I wished to check hand with him , he said peace upon you Arta Wiraf , welcome , then he ordered the holy Arouf and the angel saying; carry Arta Wiraf to see the recompense of the righteous and punishment of the wicked , which is the same in the quran; the paradise and the hell

A similar story to the Isra' and Me'raj was found also in the Indian pagan religions, in an Indian book named "Aprolophitum" (meaning the tourism to the world of andra}

The old Indians said that Andra was the god of the sky, there was a man who reached the sky and came to the place where Andra the god of sky existed, there was a garden and eternal springs irrigating the green plants, and in the middle of the garden there was a tree called Gizia

The story of Isra' and Me'raj was not the only story that influenced Muhammad but there are also many stories


2) "Hour Al-Ein"(the paradise women)

They do not exist in any holy book and it is derived from the Zerdeshtian and Indian cultures with a great similarity with what was mentioned in the quran and the converses

In the Behloian (Old Persian) language the word "Hour" was present with the same meaning as mentioned in Islam

Those charming women were mentioned in the Old Persian books and also in the old Indian books

It was said that" those Hour are for the enjoyment of martyrs of war in earth"
Exactly as mentioned in the quran, as for each believer in the paradise will be 72 Hour Al- Ein

Also the same was mentioned in the quran, concerning the martyrs and their enjoyment with Hour Al- Ein in the paradise


3) The Jinn:

The word Jinn was derived from the Behloian (Old Persian) language. It was mentioned in a book named (fiesta) it is the holy Zerdeshtian book and their constitution. It is derived from the word Jinni meaning an evil demon. Also about the expulsion of Azaziel from the paradise, it was present in Zerdeshtian.
It was said that God created Azaziel and he worshiped God 1000 years in a prison , then he came out to the earth and worshiped god in each layer of the earth 1000 years till he reached the inner most earth. The same story of Azaziel who was a prisoner then liberated as mentioned in the quran was originally mentioned in Zerdeshtian. In the book of (Ara'es Al-Majals) , page 73 Satan ( that's Azaziel) stayed by the gate of paradise for 3000 years , aiming to hurt Adam and Eve as his heart was full of envy

The same story was mentioned in Zerdeshtian in a book named (bundahashina), chapter 1, 2, it was said that" Ahrment" that was Satan" was in the darkness and still there, he was unaware of things till they happen, in that darkness he wished to hurt others, finally he went out of the abysm, when he saw the light of Arnos he wished to harm others

So there is a similarity between Azaziel in Islam who was" Ahrment' in Zerdeshtian who was in a prison and tried hardly to hurt God's creatures

The question is does God inspire by things that were present in the ancient legendaries?
Those legendaries that don't exist in the Taurât and bible


4) The light of Muhammad;

It was mentioned in Islam in the stories of the prophets, that the first thing created by God was the light of Muhammad

In the garden of the beloved( Rawdat Al-Ahbab) it was said that: when God created Adam , he put on his forehead a light , and said : O Adam this light is the light of your best son , the chief prophet who will be sent , then that light was conveyed to the whole mankind till reached Abdullah Bin Abdul-Muteleb , and from him to Am'na who gave birth to Muhammad

The origin of that story was present in a Zerdeshtian book " Fares Yousel "it said:" the creator , created the whole universe and all his creatures , the chief angel, the heavenly mind ,all from his own light , the legendary mentioned that the light which was in the first man( Adam) ,was conveyed from person to another till reached the last person ,

That was exactly the same story mentioned in the converses concerning the light of Muhammad

5) The straight bath (Al-Surat Al-Mustakim)

It was said that it is a very thin cord thinner than a hair and sharper than a sward, on which all people will walk, the disbelievers will fall into the hell when they walk on it, but Muslims will get into the paradise

The word "Surat" is not an Arabic word, it does not exist in the Arabic language at all, but it is a Persian word meaning the bridge

Zerdeshtian said that it connects the earth with the paradise, the same concept used by Muhammad

In a Persian book named (Zikart) , part 2, chapter 81, page 5,6:" Zirdash said : I am keeping my purity and chastity , worshiping you , not to have your horrible punishment , but to walk on the " Surat" to reach that blessed place , that's full of perfumes and joy

"Al-Surat" is not present in any religion, nothing like that Surat that is like a thin hair leading to the paradise

How did those believes reach the Arabic peninsula? , and how did Muhammad acquired those cultures?

In the book of" the garden of the beloved (Rawdat Al-Ahbab) it was said that:" Muhammad used to speak and argue with everyone come to him, from all rites and denominations and he used to speak with them with some words of their languages"

Those stories in the quran were famous stories narrated by the Arabs

Al-Kanady said in his book (the Arabs) "the story of Aad and Thamoud, the camel of Saleh and the people of the elephant were mentioned in a sitting, he said those cold storied and tales of the old had been narrated by nights"

In the prophetical life story by Ibn Hesham: a Persian man named Selman the Persian who suggested for Muhammad to dig the tunnel and make the 'Majaniq" in the incursion of bane-Safik in Al-Tae'f

Selman the Persian helped Muhammad to write the quran and that what Muhammad mentioned in the Bees chapter (Surat An-Nahl) 103" It is only a human being who teaches him"

I am asking how Muhammad spoke with him about the tunnel and "Majaniq" in Persian language. And how he lived in the Arabic peninsula, and didn't learn from his contemporary Persian people and took from them lot of their culture
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Sources of Islam part: 3

4-From the Christian sources ,Islam are divided into two parts:

(A) Quotations from the Holy Bible: the examples for that are:

1) The annunciation of the angel to Zakaria:
Mentioned in Mary chapter (Surat Maryam) in the quran and in the gospel of Luke in the Holy Bible


2) Virgin Mary and the annunciation of the angel to her:
Mentioned in the Family of Imran chapter (Surat Aal-'Imran) in the quran and in the gospel of Luke in the Holy Bible


3) Difficulty of getting the wickedest into heaven:
In the Holy Bible it is mentioned in the gospel of Luke 18:25:
''For it is easier for a camel to enter in through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God".
In the quran in The Heights chapter (Surat Al-A'raf) 40:" Verily, those who belie Our verses and treat them with arrogance, for them the gates of heaven will not be opened, and they will not enter Paradise until the camel goes through the eye of the needle"


4) The recompense of the pious, righteous people in heaven:
In the Holy Bible it is mentioned in 1Corinthians 2:9 "Things which an eye didn't see, and an ear didn't hear, which didn't enter into the heart of man, these God has prepared for those who love him."
In Meshkat Almasabih, page 487, there is a holy converse: narrated Abu-Hurairah that Muhammad said: God said that I prepared for my righteous worshipers Things which an eye didn't see, and an ear didn't hear

5) Miracles of the Christ:
As creation, giving sight to the blind and reviving from death.
In the gospel of Matthew: "healing every disease and every sickness among the people"
In the quran in the Family of Imran chapter (Surat Aal-'Imran) 49: I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I bring the dead to life"

6) The Jewish' denial of the Christ:
In the gospel of Matthew 26:4:" They took counsel together that they might take Jesus by deceit, and kill him"
In the quran in the Family of Imran chapter (Surat Aal-'Imran) 54:"And they plotted and Allah plotted too. And Allah is the Best of the plotters"
With the difference that in the Holy Bible it was not said that God is plotter, as this could never be.

7) The Christ' ascension up to the sky:
In the gospel of Mark:" So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was received up into heaven"
In the quran, in the women chapter (Surat An-Nisa') 158:" But Allah raised him up unto Himself"


(B) The popular legendaries and the books of heretics:
Among the sources of Islam were the popular legendaries and quotations from the books of heretics, as examples for that:

1) Maryam (Mary) the daughter of Imran:
In the Holy Bible it was mentioned that Maryam (Mary) was the daughter of Yoachim. But in the quran it was mentioned that Maryam was the daughter of Imran, and the sister of Moses and Hârûn, although there is a difference in time between them about fifteen centuries

Maryam the daughter of Imran was present in a popular book that was assimilating Virgin Mary with Mary the sister of Moses and Hârûn and daughter of Imran, as just an assimilation for extracting contemplations, but the quran considered that as a fact and quoted that, so Virgin Mary became the daughter of Imran

God can't mistake in a fact like this to be included in his saying

2) The angel bringing food to Maryam while she was in Al-Mihrâb (seclusion)
In the quran, in the Family of Imran chapter (Surat Aal-'Imran) 37:" Every time Zakaria entered Al-Mihrâb (seclusion) to visit her, he found her supplied with sustenance." That does not exist in the Holy bible at all, but that story was literally present in a popular book named" The birth of Mary and the childhood of the savior", chapter 20

3) The Christ speaking in the cradle:
The quran mentioned that the Christ spoke while he was in the cradle, in Mary chapter (Surat Maryam) 29, 30:" Then she pointed to him. They said: "how can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle? 'Isa (Jesus) said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah; He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet." This story doesn't exist in The Holy Bible, but was literally present in a popular book named "The birth of Mary and the childhood of the savior", chapter 20, and the quran quoted it from that book.

This story was originally derived from Indian legendary about the birth of Buddha, 559 years before the Christ and was present in an Indian book named" Midana Kataha " chapter 1, page 5 , it was taken by those lay people who wanted to glorify the Christ making him speaking while he was still in the cradle , so Muhammad quoted it, thus was mentioned in the quran

4) The creation of birds by the Christ:
This doesn't exist in The Holy Bible, but was present in the book" Narration about the childhood of the Christ ", chapter 36

5) The table descending from the sky:
This story mentioned in the quran in table chapter (Surat Al-Ma'idah') 112-115 doesn't exit in The Holy Bible, but was quoted from the popular books

6) The story of the Cave people:
It is a story mentioned in the quran in:
The Cave chapter (Surat Al-Kahf )22:"Some say they were three, the dog being the fourth among them, others say they were five, the dog being the sixth, guessing at the unseen, yet others say they were seven, the dog being the eighth, My Lord knows best their number; none knows them but a few, So debate not "

Amazingly God doesn't know their exact number saying : Some say they were three, the dog being the fourth among them, others say they were five, the dog being the sixth, others say they were seven, the dog being the eighth, My Lord knows best , so why he was telling those guesses while he would know the truth, and he doesn't want also the people to ask about the saying" debate not"

This story of people of the cave was quoted from the book of "the life story of the Christian saints and martyrs" named "Al-Sineksar." In it, they mentioned" under the readings of the 20 Th of Mesra" (one of the Coptic months):

"In that day, on the year 252 Gregorian, the seven young saints martyred, those were in Ephesus and their names are documented they are: Melkhis, Martinyanus John, Maximus, Dionasius, Serabion and Kostantinius

When the king provoked the paganism, they went to a cave to hide in it, fearing that they may fall under the threatening of the king, and deny the Christ, but the king knew about that, and he commanded to close the gate of the cave on them, one of the guards who was executing that commandment was a Christian, so he engraved their life story on a brass sheet he found in the cave.

So those saints slender their pure souls and died , when the lord wished to honor those honest believers , he revealed to the bishop of the city to go and open the door of the cave, he went and found them dead but their bodies were conserved and intact , he knew from the brass sheet he found in the cave that they died two hundred years ago, and he knew from the coins they had that they were during the reign of king Dakius

The story was quoted by Muhammad and was put into the quran. As many Christian were present in the Arabic peninsula, that story reached the Arabic peninsula and was altered.

Ibn Hesham said in his book 'the prophetical life story", part one page 217:
"Christianity was widely spread in Najran in the north of Yemen and the south of Hijaz, the king of Yemen was a Christian, also Waraqa Ibn Nofal became a Christian in Makkah and so many others. So those popular stories were reaching to people and hence were included in the quran.
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