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Mari kita cerna kedua hadist berikut ini. Di situ tertulis, sebelum muhammad melakukan ritual haji yang TERAKHIR, abubakar diperintahkannya untuk menulis perintah untuk MELARANG orang-orang PAGAN dan ORANG-ORANG BUGIL melakukan ritual Tawaf.

Kenapa ada perintah tersebut, TENTUNYA hanya ada satu kesimpulannya. Di ritual2 haji sebelumnya, muhammad melakukan tawaf bersama pagan-pagan yang memiliki kebiasaan BUGIL dalam mengelilingi kabah!... Pertanyaannya adalah apakah muhammad mengikuti kebiasaan BUGIL tersebut?

BUKHARI, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 365:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
On the Day of Nahr (10th of Dhul-Hijja, in the year prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Abu Bakr was the leader of the pilgrims in that Hajj) Abu Bakr sent me along with other announcers to Mina to make a public announcement: "No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year and no naked person is allowed to perform the Tawaf around the Ka'ba. Then Allah's Apostle sent 'All to read out the Surat Bara'a (At-Tauba) to the people; so he made the announcement along with us on the day of Nahr in Mina: "No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year and no naked person is allowed to perform the Tawaf around the Ka'ba."


BUKHARI, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 689:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
n the year prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Allahs Apostle made Abu Bakr the leader of the pilgrims, the latter (Abu Bakr) sent me in the company of a group of people to make a public announcement: 'No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year, and no naked person is allowed to perform Tawaf of the Kaba.' (See Hadith No. 365 Vol. 1)


Ada kemungkinan BESAR muhammad ikut BUGIL BERSAMA dengan para pagan tersebut. Sudah pengetahuan umum muhammad MENG-COPY habis budaya pagan dan mem-spritualisasikan menjadi ajaran islam. Kebiasaan puasa paganpun DILAKUKAN muhammad. BAHKAN muhammad mensabotase simbol-simbol pagan, Safa dan Marwa, sebagai simbol2nya allah!.


Volume 5, Book 58, Number 172:
Narrated 'Aisha:
'Ashura' (i.e. the tenth of Muharram) was a day on which the tribe of Quraish used to fast in the pre-lslamic period of ignorance. The Prophet also used to fast on this day. So when he migrated to Medina, he fasted on it and ordered (the Muslims) to fast on it. When the fasting of Ramadan was enjoined, it became optional for the people to fast or not to fast on the day of Ashura.

BUKHARI, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 706:
Narrated 'Urwa:

I asked 'Aisha : "How do you interpret the statement of Allah,. : Verily! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah, and whoever performs the Hajj to the Ka'ba or performs 'Umra, it is not harmful for him to perform Tawaf between them (Safa and Marwa.) (2.158). By Allah! (it is evident from this revelation) there is no harm if one does not perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa." 'Aisha said, "O, my nephew! Your interpretation is not true. Had this interpretation of yours been correct, the statement of Allah should have been, 'It is not harmful for him if he does not perform Tawaf between them.' But in fact, this divine inspiration was revealed concerning the Ansar who used to assume lhram for worship ping an idol called "Manat" which they used to worship at a place called Al-Mushallal before they embraced Islam, and whoever assumed Ihram (for the idol), would consider it not right to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa.

When they embraced Islam, they asked Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) regarding it, saying, "O Allah's Apostle! We used to refrain from Tawaf between Safa and Marwa." So Allah revealed: 'Verily; (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah.' " Aisha added, "Surely, Allah's Apostle set the tradition of Tawaf between Safa and Marwa, so nobody is allowed to omit the Tawaf between them." Later on I ('Urwa) told Abu Bakr bin 'Abdur-Rahman (of 'Aisha's narration) and he said, 'i have not heard of such information, but I heard learned men saying that all the people, except those whom 'Aisha mentioned and who used to assume lhram for the sake of Manat, used to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa.

When Allah referred to the Tawaf of the Ka'ba and did not mention Safa and Marwa in the Quran, the people asked, 'O Allah's Apostle! We used to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa and Allah has revealed (the verses concerning) Tawaf of the Ka'ba and has not mentioned Safa and Marwa. Is there any harm if we perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?' So Allah revealed: "Verily As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah." Abu Bakr said, "It seems that this verse was revealed concerning the two groups, those who used to refrain from Tawaf between Safa and Marwa in the Pre-lslamic Period of ignorance and those who used to perform the Tawaf then, and after embracing Islam they refrained from the Tawaf between them as Allah had enjoined Tawaf of the Ka'ba and did not mention Tawaf (of Safa and Marwa) till later after mentioning the Tawaf of the Ka'ba.'


BUKHARI, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 710:
Narrated 'Asim:
I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " (2.158)


Jika muhammad dengan seenaknya mensabotase simbol-simbol pagan menjadi simbol allah, dan TANPA MERASA BERSALAH mengikuti puasa pagan, Ashura, MAKA sangat besar KEMUNGKINAN sebelum haji muhammad yang terakhir, MUHAMMAD BUGIL bersama para pagan bugil melakukan ritual haji! :D

Jawaban dari situs Islam sendiri:

Prophet Muhammad lived among pagans who literally worshiped in nakedness!

Muhammad hidup di tengah-tengah masyarakat pagan yang harafiah melakukan ritus penyembahan dengan TELANJANG!!!

As I was reading the Hadiths (sayings of Prophet Muhammad), I came across this topic that should hopefully shed some light upon some of the mysterious things that might have taken place during the life of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Let us look at the following narrations.

Note: Kaba or Ka'ba is the black cube building that you see in Mecca, and "Tawaf" means going around.

Ibn Abbas reported: During the pre-Islamic days women circumambulated the Ka'ba nakedly, and said: Who would provide cloth to cover the one who is circumambulating the Ka'ba so that she would cover her private parts? And then she would say: Today will be exposed the whole or the part and what is exposed I shall not make it lawful. It was in this connection that the verse was revealed: "Adorn yourself at every place of worship" (vii. 31). (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 043, Number 7179)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: "On the Day of Nahr (10th of Dhul-Hijja, in the year prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Abu Bakr was the leader of the pilgrims in that Hajj) Abu Bakr sent me along with other announcers to Mina to make a public announcement: "No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year and no naked person is allowed to perform the Tawaf (going around) around the Ka'ba (the black cube building in Mecca). Then Allah's Apostle sent 'All to read out the Surat Bara'a (At-Tauba) to the people; so he made the announcement along with us on the day of Nahr in Mina: "No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year and no naked person is allowed to perform the Tawaf around the Ka'ba." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 365)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: "In the year prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Allahs Apostle made Abu Bakr the leader of the pilgrims, the latter (Abu Bakr) sent me in the company of a group of people to make a public announcement: 'No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year, and no naked person is allowed to perform Tawaf of the Kaba.' (See Hadith No. 365 Vol. 1). (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 689)"

Narrated Humaid bin Abdur Rahman: "Abu Huraira said, "Abu Bakr sent me in that Hajj in which he was the chief of the pilgrims along with the announcers whom he sent on the Day of Nahr to announce at Mina: "No pagan shall perform Hajj after this year, and none shall perform the Tawaf around the Ka'ba in a naked state." Humaid added: That the Prophet sent 'Ali bin Abi Talib (after Abu Bakr) and ordered him to recite aloud in public Surat-Baraa. Abu Huraira added, "So 'Ali, along with us, recited Bara'a (loudly) before the people at Mina on the Day of Nahr and announced "No pagan shall perform Hajj after this year and none shall perform the Tawaf around the Ka'ba in a naked state."..except those pagans with whom you (Muslims) have a treaty." (9.4). (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 179)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: "That during the Hajj in which the Prophet had made Abu Bakr As Siddiq as chief of the, Hajj before the Hajj-ul-Wida,' on the day of Nahr, Abu Bakr sent him along with a group of persons to announce to the people. "No pagan is permitted to perform Hajj after this year, and nobody is permitted to perform the Tawaf of the Ka'ba naked." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 649)"

Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported: "Abu Bakr Siddiq (Allah be pleased with him) sent me during Hajj before the Farewell Pilgrimage for which Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) had appointed him an Amir, among a group of people whom he had ordered to make announcement to the people on the Day of Nahr:" After this year no polytheist may perform the Pilgrimage and no naked person may circumambulate the House." Ibn Shihab stated that Humaid b. Abd al-Rahman said that according to this narration of Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) the day of Hajj al-Akbar (Great Hajj) is this Day of Nahr (10th of Dhu'l-Hijja). (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 007, Number 3125)"

The Sexually open pagan Arabs:

Aside from the fact that the above narrations clearly and indisputably prove that the pagan Arabs used to be too sexually open, to a point even (I was once told by my father) that men would literally offer their wives for few nights to other more-powerful men in the tribe. It would give more honor and elate the status of a person if his wife slept with, for instance, the chief of the tribe.

Pagan Arab terbukti melakukan ritus sex terbuka! Dalam upacara tersebut kaum pria secara harafiah mempersembahkan isteri-isteri mereka selama beberapa malam kepada laki-laki lain yang lebih berkuasa dalam suku mereka. Hal ini akan menambah hormat dan menaikkan status pria yang memberikan isterinya untuk ditiduri oleh Kelapa Sukunya!!! Asyiikkk!!! ;)

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mana bukti nabi telanjang ketika haji ??..... asumsi wae

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:mana bukti nabi telanjang ketika haji ??..... asumsi wae

seneng gue kl debat sama montir, jawabannya cuma sebaris...menandakan die kehabisan akal....hihihi... :D..mon, muhammad waktu haji bersama pagan-pagan APA NGGAK GELO atau JIJIK gitu?hihihi... :D ...

muhamad dilahirkan dari keluarga kapir, muhamad sendiri adalah mualaf ex pagan ke islam, agama pagan juga hasil ciptaannya sendiri.

Pagan Arab terbukti melakukan ritus sex terbuka! Dalam upacara tersebut kaum pria secara harafiah mempersembahkan isteri-isteri mereka selama beberapa malam kepada laki-laki lain yang lebih berkuasa dalam suku mereka. Hal ini akan menambah hormat dan menaikkan status pria yang memberikan isterinya untuk ditiduri oleh Kelapa Sukunya!!! Asyiikkk!!!

Jadi kepala suku adalah impian muhamad, bayangkan saja ritus sex terbuka menunggangi istri orang adalah hal yang bisa bikin muhamad ngiler, bukan itu saja, bahkan muhamadpun menjanjikan ritual sex di syurga dengan 72 pelacur syurga bagi pengikutnya.

akhirnya budak2, balita dan menantunya sendiripun diembatnya pula.

Aduh kok masalahin hadist, ayat quran'na ada ga??? Sampai mati para pengikut muhammad ga bakal ngakuin kalo mereka bugil sambil keliling kabah. Yang jadi patokan quran mereka, hadist cuma pendukung, kalo mendukung dipakai kalau ga mendukung dibuang...
Sama saat mereka bilang kabah itu cuma kiblat bukan berhala...


Tapi buat montir ga usah takut kalaupun hadist itu benar berarti ente juga senang kan???

Rebecca wrote: seneng gue kl debat sama montir, jawabannya cuma sebaris...menandakan die kehabisan akal....hihihi... :D..mon, muhammad waktu haji bersama pagan-pagan APA NGGAK GELO atau JIJIK gitu?hihihi... :D ...

he he .... masih belon hafal gue juga luh ...em em rebek palsu gitu loch ...

betapa senengnya liat yg histeris teriak kemenangan dan dibela kawan2nya ...tapi dipenghujung nahan malu :oops:

Asumsi oh asumsi .... blunder !!

Sahih Muslim, Book 007, Hadith Number 2808.
Hisham narrated on the authority of his father that the Arabs with the exception of Hums who were Quraish, and their descendants, circumambulated the House naked. They kept circumambulating In this state of nudity unless the Hums supplied to them the clothes. The male provided (clothes) to the male and the female provided clothes to the female. And the Hums did not get out of Muzdalifa, whereas the people (other than the Quraish) went t o 'Arafat. Hisham said on the authority of his father who related from 'Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) who said: Hums are those about whom Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, revealed this verse: "Then hasten to where the people hasten." She (further) said: The people hastened on from 'Arafat, whereas Hums hastened from Muzdalifa, and said: We do not hasten but from Haram. But when this (verse) was revealed: "Hasten on from that (place) where the people hasten on," they (the Quraish) then went to 'Arafat.

siapa itu HUMS yang menyediakan baju buat pagan arab yg telanjang itu ??...niiih ..!!

Sahih Muslim, Book 007, Hadith Number 2807.
'Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that the Quraish (of the pre-Islamic days) and those who followed their religions practices stayed at Muzdalifa, and they named themselves as Hums, whereas all other Arabs stayed at 'Arafa. With the advent of Islam, Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, commanded His Apostle (may peace be upon him) to come to 'Arafat and stay there, and then hurry from there, and this is the significance of the words of Allah: "Then hasten on from where the people hasten on."

jadi sebelum Nabi jadi Nabi pun sudah ada antisipasi nyediain baju buat orang arab bukan keturunan Ibrahim yg tawaf sambil telanjang.

jadi masih ngerasa ngalahin OM MOMON ???

MONTIR KEPALA wrote: he he .... masih belon hafal gue juga luh ...em em rebek palsu gitu loch ...

betapa senengnya liat yg histeris teriak kemenangan dan dibela kawan2nya ...tapi dipenghujung nahan malu :oops:

Asumsi oh asumsi .... blunder !!

Sahih Muslim, Book 007, Hadith Number 2808.
Hisham narrated on the authority of his father that the Arabs with the exception of Hums who were Quraish, and their descendants, circumambulated the House naked. They kept circumambulating In this state of nudity unless the Hums supplied to them the clothes. The male provided (clothes) to the male and the female provided clothes to the female. And the Hums did not get out of Muzdalifa, whereas the people (other than the Quraish) went t o 'Arafat. Hisham said on the authority of his father who related from 'Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) who said: Hums are those about whom Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, revealed this verse: "Then hasten to where the people hasten." She (further) said: The people hastened on from 'Arafat, whereas Hums hastened from Muzdalifa, and said: We do not hasten but from Haram. But when this (verse) was revealed: "Hasten on from that (place) where the people hasten on," they (the Quraish) then went to 'Arafat.

siapa itu HUMS yang menyediakan baju buat pagan arab yg telanjang itu ??...niiih ..!!

Mon...gue palsu? hihihi...kenapa kecerdasan otakmu itu nggak elo pake dengan menanyakan keaslian nabi penghisap lidah anak kecil dan pedophile? hihihi....

Mon, mau gue buktiin keaslian gue? ...ok, lets go on...gue mau nelanjangin sekali lagi kehancuran bahasa inggrismu!...lihat yang elo bold sendiri...

They kept circumambulating In this state of nudity unless the Hums supplied to them the clothes.

SUPAYA keluguan dan kegoblokanmu lebih jelas, lebih baik gue translatein deh...

Mereka (orang-orang arab) TETAP berkeliling dalam keadaan BUGIL KECUALI jika orang2 HUM memberikan mereka pakaian.

Udah tahu kegoblokanmu sekarang mon? udah sadar?...hihihi...dengan kata lain, orang2 arab tetap melakukan TAWAF dengan bugil kecuali orang2 hum memberikan pakaian!....jika orang2 hum tidak memberikan pakaian, YAH MEREKA TETAP BUGIL! :D

SEBELUM muhammad si tukang hisap lidah anak kecil melaksanakan haji yang terakhir, dia mengeluarkan larangan ORANG BUGIL untuk TAWAF!....lho kenapa? :D ....itu artinya orang2 arab saat itu emang suka bugil ngelilingin rumah setan! :D ...

Pertanyaannya sekarang muhammad ikut bugil nggak? kan muhammad terkenal suka ngikutin kebiasaan pagan! :D ...oke deh kalau si nabi bejat itu nggak ikutan bugil, TAPI apa dia nggak gelo dan jijik ngelihat arab2 bugil ngelilingin rumah setan? hihihi...

ha ha ... pake senjata kuno ..BAHASA ENGGREESS... sabari teu nyambung penjelasanna...kik..kik.... TOQ ..TOQ ..TOQ..MENTOQ ...!! ha ha ha

penjelasan engrees luh kagak merubah apapun akan kebodohan nalar luh .... kebodohan berbungkus so tau bahasa enggress...

buat apa tau bahasa enggres kalo essensi tulisan enggresnya kagak dapat dicerna dgn cerdas ??... kik..kik... yuuuuuuuuuuuu...!!

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:ha ha ... pake senjata kuno ..BAHASA ENGGREESS... sabari teu nyambung penjelasanna...kik..kik.... TOQ ..TOQ ..TOQ..MENTOQ ...!! ha ha ha

penjelasan engrees luh kagak merubah apapun akan kebodohan nalar luh .... kebodohan berbungkus so tau bahasa enggress...

buat apa tau bahasa enggres kalo essensi tulisan enggresnya kagak dapat dicerna dgn cerdas ??... kik..kik... yuuuuuuuuuuuu...!!

mon, everybody down here knows what an bloody idiot you are...hihihi... :D ..

They kept circumambulating In this state of nudity unless the Hums supplied to them the clothes

Mereka (orang-orang arab) TETAP berkeliling dalam keadaan BUGIL KECUALI JIKA orang2 HUM memberikan mereka pakaian

jadi menurut elo terjemahan gue salah mon? hihihi.... :D ...gue kasih logika gini yah mon,

Montir itu TETAP tidak memakai kolor di rumah KECUALI JIKA isterinya memberikannya celana dalam!

Artinya mon, elo masih tetap nggak memakai kolor di rumah...cuma kadang2 elo pakai kolor kalau isteri elo memberikannya!...


UDAH PAHAM keidiotanmu mon?

Jadi, kembali ke topik awal....KENAPA muhammad nggak malu...keliling rumah setan dengan orang2 arab yang BUGIL?

montir, you was very embarrassing in the english language . you could think how many in the English lesson? If you were not clever, should not deny.

montir, you was very embarrassing in the english language . you could think how many in the English lesson? If you were not clever, should not deny.

heh kapir ..oneng ...
kagak ada urusan sama bahasa enggres hadits di atas .... enggres dipake buat nutupin muka malu si rebek saja .... pake bahas UNLESS ...konyol dan tolol banget ...!!

nih baca tudingan dan cekakak cekikik si rebek oneng...

oneng wrote: seneng gue kl debat sama montir, jawabannya cuma sebaris...menandakan die kehabisan akal....hihihi... ..mon, muhammad waktu haji bersama pagan-pagan APA NGGAK GELO atau JIJIK gitu?hihihi... ...

baca pake mata .... bersikukuh nuduh nabi benar2 tawaf bareng dgn yg bugil ... sedangkan di masa jahiliah saja prang2 HUMS peduli pada masalah ini...mereka memberikan arab2 yg telanjang itu baju. ini zaman jahiliyah apalagi zaman Nabi berkuasa atas mekka tentunya dicegah tawaf telanjang tsb ....
nah makanya melek tuh sama tulisan orang ...

gue wrote:jadi sebelum Nabi jadi Nabi pun sudah ada antisipasi nyediain baju buat orang arab bukan keturunan Ibrahim yg tawaf sambil telanjang.

jadi wahai kapir ONENGG kagak perlu kita bahas bahasa ENGRES nya karena semua sudah jelas....

MONTIR KEPALA wrote: baca pake mata .... bersikukuh nuduh nabi benar2 tawaf bareng dgn yg bugil ... sedangkan di masa jahiliah saja prang2 HUMS peduli pada masalah ini...mereka memberikan arab2 yg telanjang itu baju. ini zaman jahiliyah apalagi zaman Nabi berkuasa atas mekka tentunya dicegah tawaf telanjang tsb .....

mon, kau ini bodohnya keterlaluan sih!...hihihi...mampus elo ntar gue kerjain di sini...hihihi...pembaca muslim pasti malu lihat ketololanmu ini... ...

Gue ulangi sekali lagi statement ini:

They kept circumambulating In this state of nudity unless the Hums supplied to them the clothes.

kita pecah menjadi beberapa phrase:
1. Arabs kept circumambulating in the state of nudity.
Perhatikan 'kept circumambulating'....itu artinya orang-orang arab TETAP dan SELALU melakukan tawaf dengan KONDISI BUGIL...

2. UNLESS---> KECUALI KALAU

3. the Hums supplied to them the clothes
Orang-orang Hum memberikan pakaian kepada mereka.

Jadi kesimpulan yang logis adalah:
Orang2 arab Berkeliling dengan Bugil di rumah setan alloh KECUALI KALAU orang-orang hum memberikan mereka pakaian!


Hihihi... ...si montir sangat bangga dengan ketololannya tidak tahu arti UNLESS...hihiih...entah sudah berapa kali gue tunjukkin kebodohannya...tapi dasar muka tembok...tak tahu malu...pembaca muslim aja malu lihat ketololanmu mon!

DASAR muslim emang ****!...kl nggak **** mana mau ngikutin nabi penghisap lidah anak2 dan suka bocah perempuan 6thn! :D

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:jadi wahai kapir ONENGG kagak perlu kita bahas bahasa ENGRES nya karena semua sudah jelas....

Hihihi...takut yah KETOLOLANmu semakin berbau busuk? ...udah sono pulang ke pesantren tanya kyai kumel ttg UNLESS!

Gue ketawa saja deh lihat keTOLOLan si montir

Dia kutip sendiri dari Hadits berbahasa inggris sebagai penyanggah (senjata buat ngelawan) si rebecca, eh... ternyata dia sdr ga tahu terjemahannya. Malahan jadi senjata makan tuan.
Malu :oops: dong ah mon... (kl masih punya malu).

Gue jg khawatir jangan-jangan si momon jg ga tahu apa-apa tentang islam, momed dan ajarannya :?: cuma sekedar ikutan diforum ini untuk menyalurkan bakat ngotot tanpa pengetahuan dan bukti alias MEMBABI BUTA, biar muslim-muslim yg baca ngirain si montir adalah sosok pahlawan islam (yg ga tahunya si momon ini cm provokator yg menyalurkan bakat DEBAT KUSIRnya).

Gembrandul wrote:Gue ketawa saja deh lihat keTOLOLan si montir

Dia kutip sendiri dari Hadits berbahasa inggris sebagai penyanggah (senjata buat ngelawan) si rebecca, eh... ternyata dia sdr ga tahu terjemahannya. Malahan jadi senjata makan tuan.
Malu :oops: dong ah mon... (kl masih punya malu).

Gue jg khawatir jangan-jangan si momon jg ga tahu apa-apa tentang islam, momed dan ajarannya :?: cuma sekedar ikutan diforum ini untuk menyalurkan bakat ngotot tanpa pengetahuan dan bukti alias MEMBABI BUTA, biar muslim-muslim yg baca ngirain si montir adalah sosok pahlawan islam (yg ga tahunya si momon ini cm provokator yg menyalurkan bakat DEBAT KUSIRnya).

Hihihi...sampai saat ini montir nggak mau jelasin arti kata UNLESS...hihihi...susah emang debat sama muslim idiot!

maksudnya si mon2 itu dia kasih hadis inggris supaya rebbeca menerjemahkan soalnya he couldn't understand world language, so he decided to hide his stupidity with his own argument, so.... let him think to him self about the truth of his prophet, we only tell them the truth about his puppet prophet.

saya yakin sekali si mon2 ga ngerti...

botol..botol ....
gue kagak menyanggah adanya kegiatan tawaf naked dari Pagan Arab dude ..... oneng pisan ...
tapi gue nunjukin sama otak cetek elo bahwa penghuni kota Mekkah dan penjaga kabah yakni HUMS (istilah peserta tawaf bagi kafir Quraish) udeh risi sama yang namanya TAWAF sambil BUGIL .... mereka menyediakan baju buat pagan Arab yg telanjang.

artinya mereka PEDULI dan TIDAK MEMBIARKAN AKSI NAKED pagan arab tsb .... padahal mereka KAFIR (masa jahiliyah).

sekarang dgn dungu si rebek ngomong ngasal Nabi tawaf bareng orang2 telanjang .... kalo kapir aja berusaha agar mereka tdk bugil apalagi muslim ...

ngertikah kalian wahai kaum onengg ??

gak usah sembunyi dibalik bahasa ENGGRES ..gue udeh tau luh mah bloon baca haditsnya ...

kapir...kapir kapan luh pinter ??... kik..kik