Kafir Quraisy mengakui Muhammad tak mungkin bohong

MONTIR KEPALA · Post by **MONTIR KEPALA** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:07 pm

Kafir-kafir Quraisy pun mengakui Muhammad tak mungkin berbohong

Sahih Bukhari, Volumn 006, Book 060, Hadith Number 293.
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Narated By Ibn Abbas : When the Verse: 'And warn your tribe of near-kindred, was revealed, the Prophet ascended the Safa (mountain) and started calling, "O Bani Fihr! O Bani 'Adi!" addressing various tribes of Quraish till they were assembled. Those who could not come themselves, sent their messengers to see what was there.
Abu Lahab and other people from Quraish came and the Prophet then said, "Suppose I told you that there is an (enemy) cavalry in the valley intending to attack you, would you believe me?" They said, "Yes, for we have not found you telling anything other than the truth." He then said, "I am a warner to you in face of a terrific punishment." Abu Lahab said (to the Prophet) "May your hands perish all this day. Is it for this purpose you have gathered us?" Then it was revealed: "Perish the hands of Abu Lahab (one of the Prophet's uncles), and perish he! His wealth and his children will not profit him..." (111.1-5)

Abu Lahab dan orang2 Quraisy lainnya dating dan nabi kemudian bersabda “seandainya saya katakana pada kalian bahwa ada sepasukan berkuda di lembah berniat menyerang kalian, akankah kalian percaya pada saya ?” Mereka berkata “YA, sebab kami tidak menemukan kamu mengatakan sesuatu selain dari kebenaran”.

Sashimi · Post by **Sashimi** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:33 pm

abu lahab yang ini bukan tir?

al massad

1 Binasalah kedua tangan Abu Lahab dan sesungguhnya dia akan binasa .
2 Tidaklah berfaedah kepadanya harta bendanya dan apa yang ia usahakan.
3 Kelak dia akan masuk ke dalam api yang bergejolak.
4 Dan (begitu pula) isterinya, pembawa kayu bakar .
5 Yang di lehernya ada tali dari sabut.

Sashimi · Post by **Sashimi** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:42 pm

hallo hallo, kok ngga ada tanggapan?

MONTIR KEPALA · Post by **MONTIR KEPALA** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:08 pm

YA betul ...Abdul Uzza bin Abdul Muthalib

Sashimi · Post by **Sashimi** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:52 pm

bagaimana mungkin elo percaya sama kesaksian orang yang udah pasti jadi penghuni jahannam?

2 Tidaklah berfaedah kepadanya harta bendanya dan apa yang ia usahakan.

cuma orang geblek yang percaya sama kesaksian penghuni jahannam

MONTIR KEPALA · Post by **MONTIR KEPALA** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:26 pm

dasar ROMA !! ha ha ha :D
kalo kesaksian dari muslim si duladi bilang "ah itu mah bisa2nya saja" nah sekarang dari lawannya luh ngomong "kok kafir dipercaya" ......
ampun nih gerombolan ..amit..amit lemoooooot !!!

ya udeh kalo luh gak suka abu lahab disana THEY kok bulan abu lahab alone :D

murtad mama · Post by **murtad mama** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:32 pm

bukannya kesaksian penghuni jahanam sudah sesat dan tiada dapat dipercaya?? apalagi olloh dah mengutuk dia jadi "penghuni" jahanam

madison · Post by **madison** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:41 pm

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:Kafir-kafir Quraisy pun mengakui Muhammad tak mungkin berbohong

Sahih Bukhari, Volumn 006, Book 060, Hadith Number 293.
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They said, "Yes, for we have not found you telling anything other than the truth."
Abu Lahab dan orang2 Quraisy lainnya dating dan nabi kemudian bersabda ?seandainya saya katakana pada kalian bahwa ada sepasukan berkuda di lembah berniat menyerang kalian, akankah kalian percaya pada saya ?? Mereka berkata ?YA, sebab kami tidak menemukan kamu mengatakan sesuatu selain dari kebenaran?.

idih si montje, itu kan artinya "setakat ini, kami BELUM mengetahui kalau kau pernah berbohong." begitu si momed ngomong "ane ini pemberi peringatan." Langsung dech abu lahab bilang "ESTUPIDO!! (kira-kira gitulah)"

MONTIR KEPALA · Post by **MONTIR KEPALA** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:01 pm

kesaksian hadit mah bukan dari Abu lahab .... ha ha ...itu kesaksian Ibnu Abbas keponakan Abu lahab yang sedari awal mendukung Nabi Saw.
dia menceritakan bagaimana para penentang nabi itu mengakui KEJUJURAN SANG NABI .....

cuma orang ***** yg bilang Muhammad pendusta ...si ***** bergelar docktor dan Phd ...

Sashimi · Post by **Sashimi** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:06 pm

jadi maksud elo gimana nih mon?, kesaksian si abu lahab di perhitungkan gak?

muslim malu2in, kesaksian penghuni jahannam kok di percaya

Sashimi · Post by **Sashimi** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:09 pm

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:dasar ROMA !! ha ha ha :D
kalo kesaksian dari muslim si duladi bilang "ah itu mah bisa2nya saja" nah sekarang dari lawannya luh ngomong "kok kafir dipercaya" ......
ampun nih gerombolan ..amit..amit lemoooooot !!!

ya udeh kalo luh gak suka abu lahab disana THEY kok bulan abu lahab alone :D

gua gak bilang kesaksian kafir kok di percaya, gua bilang, kesaksian penghuni jahannam kok di percaya?

eh mon, bisa di ceritain gak kisah turunnya ayat yang membahas abu lahab ( gile, spesial banget ni orang, sampe2 awloh khusus nurunin ayat buat 1 keluarga abu lahab )

willie · Post by **willie** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:16 pm

Itu sih hadits nyeritain ancaman muhammad ke kafilah2 quraish..

- muhammad tanya: klo ada pasukan yg nyerang kamu, percaya gak? -> muhammad dgn jelas ngancam kalo doi mo serang kafilah quraish
- abu lahab: percaya lah, dikau kan gak pernah bohong (gak pernah ingkarin ancaman dikau buat rampog kafilah2 kami)
- muhammad bilang: aku yg kasih tau kalo dikau bakal dihukum (diserang & dirampog)
- abu lahab: jadi maksud kau kumpulin kami di sini cuman buat ginian (dengerin ancaman) ? binasalah kedua tanganmu karena ancamanmu
-> muhammad bales kekesalan abu lahab dengan keluarin surah 111 yg di-klaim dari aulloh..

madison · Post by **madison** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:18 pm

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:kesaksian hadit mah bukan dari Abu lahab .... ha ha ...itu kesaksian Ibnu Abbas keponakan Abu lahab yang sedari awal mendukung Nabi Saw.
dia menceritakan bagaimana para penentang nabi itu mengakui KEJUJURAN SANG NABI .....

cuma orang ***** yg bilang Muhammad pendusta ...si ***** bergelar docktor dan Phd ...

lho memang momed pendusta kan, kafir quraysh juga tak percaya si momed itu nabi.

M-SAW · Post by **M-SAW** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:51 pm

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:YA betul ...Abdul Uzza bin Abdul Muthalib

berarti abu lahab itu si ABU JAHAL juga kan bang?

Sashimi · Post by **Sashimi** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:36 pm

yaaa, si montir udah ngga nonggol2, jam kantor habis, berarti hilang deh si montir

curious wrote:dari situs islam, kutipan dari Tasfir Ibn Khateer:

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22848

The hafiz Abu al-Faraj Al Jawzi, related with a chain of authorities from Tha'laba Suqayr and Hakim Kizam who both said. "Whn Abu Talib and Khadija died, five days apart, he suffered two tragedies together. He kept to his house and rarely went out. Quraysh treated him worse that they would have ever intended before.

"News of this reached Abu Lahab, who came to him and, 'O Muhammad, pass on freely as you want. Do whatever you did when Abu Talib was alive. No, by al-Lat, I swear no harm will befall you before I die.'

Ibn al-Ghaytala insulted the Messenger of Allah (SAW), and so Abu Lahab went to him and punished him and he went off yelling, 'O tribe of Quraysh, Abu Utba has become a Sabian!'

Quraysh men then came and stood before Abu Lahab. He told them, 'I have not felt the faith of Abd al-Muttalib. But i will prevent my nephew from being harmed and ensure his own freedom of action.'
"They commented, 'You have done well and right, and maintained your family ties.'

The Messenger of Allah (S.A.W) thereafter spent a period of some days coming and going without intereference from Quraysh who respected Abu Lahab. But eventually Uqba Abu Mu'ayt and Abu Jahl went to Abu Lahab and asked him, 'Has your nephew told you where your father has been sent?'

Abu Lahab then asked him, 'Muhammad, where has Abd al-Muttalib been sent?'
He replied, 'With his people.' So Abu Lahab when out to Uqba and Abu Jahl and told, 'I did ask him. And he replied, "With his people."

The two men commented, 'Well, he's claiming that he is in hell-fire then!'

Abu Lahab then asked him, 'Muhammad, is Abd al-Muttalib in the fire?'

The Messenger of Allah (S.A.W) replied, "Whoever dies in the state of Abd al-Muttalib was in does go into hell-fire.'
Abu Lahab - Allah curse him - then annonunced, 'By God, I shall always be your enemy for your claiming that Abd al-Muttalib is in the fire!'

At that Abu Lahab and the rest of Quraysh intensified their attacks upon him."

This was taken from Ibn Katheer's Life of the Prophet (S.A.W) Volume 2, Page 98-99.

gile nih nabi, udah dapet perlindungan dari abu lahab, masih ngga tau diri nyumpahin bapak pelindungnya masuk jahannam,

eee....., begitu di musuhin sama abu jahal ( dan pengikutnya )
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awloh nurunin ayat nyumpah2in orang yang udah mati

btw montir, ini cerita dari orang yang sama bukan?

Sashimi · Post by **Sashimi** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:41 pm

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:Kafir-kafir Quraisy pun mengakui Muhammad tak mungkin berbohong

Sahih Bukhari, Volumn 006, Book 060, Hadith Number 293.
-----------------------------------------
Narated By Ibn Abbas : When the Verse: 'And warn your tribe of near-kindred, was revealed, the Prophet ascended the Safa (mountain) and started calling, "O Bani Fihr! O Bani 'Adi!" addressing various tribes of Quraish till they were assembled. Those who could not come themselves, sent their messengers to see what was there.
Abu Lahab and other people from Quraish came and the Prophet then said, "Suppose I told you that there is an (enemy) cavalry in the valley intending to attack you, would you believe me?" They said, "Yes, for we have not found you telling anything other than the truth." He then said, "I am a warner to you in face of a terrific punishment." Abu Lahab said (to the Prophet) "May your hands perish all this day. Is it for this purpose you have gathered us?" Then it was revealed: "Perish the hands of Abu Lahab (one of the Prophet's uncles), and perish he! His wealth and his children will not profit him..." (111.1-5)

oalah, kenapa juga muhammad ngga tau diri, udah di percaya sama abu lahab, masih juga ngancam si abu lahab, ya terang aje di sumpahin abu lahab ( yang terbukti pada episode muhammad gigit paha kambiang beracun di khaibar ) tapi mon, kesaksian abu lahab masih bisa di percaya ngga?, menginggat dia penghuni jahannam?

faithfreedom · Post by **faithfreedom** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:45 am

[OOT mode : on]

mon, jenggot lu panjangnye seberape

MONTIR KEPALA · Post by **MONTIR KEPALA** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:58 am

Ente semua mirip Abu lahab ..... kik..kik

murtad mama · Post by **murtad mama** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:10 am

MONTIR KEPALA wrote:kesaksian hadit mah bukan dari Abu lahab .... ha ha ...itu kesaksian Ibnu Abbas keponakan Abu lahab yang sedari awal mendukung Nabi Saw.
dia menceritakan bagaimana para penentang nabi itu mengakui KEJUJURAN SANG NABI .....

cuma orang ***** yg bilang Muhammad pendusta ...si ***** bergelar docktor dan Phd ...

montje, emang perlu gelar DOKTOR atau PHD tuk bongkar kedok si nabi bejat muhammad

montje, bukankah si abu lahab itu sudah dilaknat masuk neraka dan kesaksiannya ditolak

montje lupa ya aturan keligho

montje tau ndak kriteria hadis shahih??

1) minimal ada 5 atau lebih hadith yang meriwaytkan sama

2) para perawinya harus tsiqah (dapat dipercaya), lah wong abu lahab masuk neraka kq dipercaya :oops:

3) para perawinya harus punya dlabth (ingatan) yang kuat

nah tentang hadithmu itu, point (1) aja dah kurang, apalagi point (2)

monggo dijawab, jangan seperti nongkon pembawa hadith maudhu, memang mama bisa dikadalin masalah ilmu hadith

akri · Post by **akri** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:11 am

Sashimi wrote:abu lahab yang ini bukan tir?

al massad

1 Binasalah kedua tangan Abu Lahab dan sesungguhnya dia akan binasa .
2 Tidaklah berfaedah kepadanya harta bendanya dan apa yang ia usahakan.
3 Kelak dia akan masuk ke dalam api yang bergejolak.
4 Dan (begitu pula) isterinya, pembawa kayu bakar .
5 Yang di lehernya ada tali dari sabut.

ya betul abu lahab yg itu. kamupun termasuk generasi abu lahab yang akan menghuni neraka

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