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Postby Captain Pancasila » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:00 pm

QS. 4:23. Diharamkan atas kamu (mengawini) ibu-ibumu; anak-anakmu yang perempuan; saudara-saudaramu yang perempuan, saudara-saudara bapakmu yang perempuan; saudara-saudara ibumu yang perempuan; anak-anak perempuan dari saudara-saudaramu yang laki-laki; anak-anak perempuan dari saudara-saudaramu yang perempuan; ibu-ibumu yang menyusui kamu; saudara perempuan sepersusuan; ibu-ibu istrimu (mertua); anak-anak istrimu yang dalam pemeliharaanmu dari istri yang telah kamu campuri, tetapi jika kamu belum campur dengan istrimu itu (dan sudah kamu ceraikan), maka tidak berdosa kamu mengawininya; (dan diharamkan bagimu) istri-istri anak kandungmu (menantu); dan menghimpunkan (dalam perkawinan) dua perempuan yang bersaudara, kecuali yang telah terjadi pada masa lampau; sesungguhnya Allah Maha Pengampun lagi Maha Penyayang,

di situ kok nggak ada ya, "saudara sepupu"? :-k

Cousin Marriages May Be Taboo, but They’re Not Genetic Disasters

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In the western world, marriage between first cousins is labeled incest or inbreeding, and in the United States the practice is banned or restricted in 31 states. But a new essay argues that such laws are based on an outdated notion of the genetic risks involved in cousins marrying and reproducing. Those laws “seem ill-advised” and “should be repealed,” a geneticist and medical historian write…. “Neither the scientific nor social assumptions that informed them are any longer defensible” [Scientific American].

First cousins share about an eighth of their genes, and are therefore more likely to receive two copies of some recessive gene that poses health problems. Scientists had assumed that the children of first cousins would therefore be more likely to be born with birth defects. But coauthor Hamish Spencer writes that the risk of congenital defects is about 2 per cent higher than average for babies born to first-cousin marriages – with the infant mortality about 4.4 per cent higher – which is on a par with the risk to babies born to women over 40. “Women over the age of 40 have a similar risk of having children with birth defects and no one is suggesting they should be prevented from reproducing,” said Professor Spencer [The Independent].

The editorial, published in the journal Public Library of Science Biology, focuses on the laws that restrict cousin marriages (China, Taiwan, and North and South Korea also ban the practice) and the stigma that is attached to such unions, especially in the United States. “Unlike the situation in Britain and much of Europe, cousin marriage in the U.S. was associated not with the aristocracy and upper middle class but with much easier targets: immigrants and the rural poor,” they write [Wired News].

However, the authors note that the low rate that they cite for birth defects from cousin marriages is based on populations where the practice is rare; if cousins in such places marry, their offspring are likely to look outside the family for mates and will therefore bring new genes into the bloodline. Birth defects may be more likely in places where cousin marriages are commonplace, but the studies of this topic remain difficult and controversial. In February 2008, British Environment Minister Phil Woolas sparked a row in the United Kingdom when he attributed the high rate of birth defects in the Pakistani community to the practice of marriage between first cousins, the commentators said. Earlier studies estimated that between 55 per cent [and] 59 per cent of marriages continue to be between first cousins in Pakistan [CBC News].

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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby MaNuSiA_bLeGuG » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:08 pm

However, the authors note that the low rate that they cite for birth defects from cousin marriages is based on populations where the practice is rare; if cousins in such places marry, their offspring are likely to look outside the family for mates and will therefore bring new genes into the bloodline. Birth defects may be more likely in places where cousin marriages are commonplace, but the studies of this topic remain difficult and controversial. In February 2008, British Environment Minister Phil Woolas sparked a row in the United Kingdom when he attributed the high rate of birth defects in the Pakistani community to the practice of marriage between first cousins, the commentators said. Earlier studies estimated that between 55 per cent [and] 59 per cent of marriages continue to be between first cousins in Pakistan [CBC News].


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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby yahya832 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:33 pm

Captain Pancasila wrote:First cousins share about an eighth of their genes, and are therefore more likely to receive two copies of some recessive gene that poses health problems. Scientists had assumed that the children of first cousins would therefore be more likely to be born with birth defects.

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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby Captain Pancasila » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:35 pm

hanya karena pernikahan terhadap sepupu diperbolehkan, lantas apakah Islam menganjurkannya? :-k
4:1. Hai sekalian manusia, bertakwalah kepada Tuhan-mu yang telah menciptakan kamu dari diri yang satu, dan daripadanya Allah menciptakan istrinya; dan daripada keduanya Allah memperkembang biakkan laki-laki dan perempuan yang banyak. Dan bertakwalah kepada Allah yang dengan (mempergunakan) nama-Nya kamu saling meminta satu sama lain, dan (peliharalah) hubungan silaturahmi. Sesungguhnya Allah selalu menjaga dan mengawasi kamu.

49:13. Hai manusia, sesungguhnya Kami menciptakan kamu dari seorang laki-laki dan seorang perempuan dan menjadikan kamu berbangsa-bangsa dan bersuku-suku supaya kamu saling kenal mengenal. Sesungguhnya orang yang paling mulia di antara kamu di sisi Allah ialah orang yang paling bertakwa di antara kamu. Sesungguhnya Allah Maha Mengetahui lagi Maha Mengenal.
Imam Abdullah bin Ahmad, Al-Bazzar dan Ath-Thabrani dari Ali bin Abi Thalib Radhiyallahu ‘anhu dari Nabi Shallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, beliau bersabda.”Artinya : Barangsiapa senang untuk dipanjangkan umurnya dan diluaskan rizkinya serta dihindarkan dari kematian yang buruk maka hendaklah ia bertaqwa kepada Allah dan menyambung silaturrahim

Imam Al-Bukhari dari Abdullah bin Umar Radhiyallahu ‘anhu ia berkata.”Artinya : Barangsiapa bertaqwa kepada Tuhannya dan menyambung silaturrahim, niscaya dipanjangkan umurnya, dibanyakkan rizkinya dan dicintai oleh keluarganya”
Imam Ibnu Hibban meriwayatkan dari Abu Bakrah Radhiyallahu ‘anhu dari Nabi Shallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam bahwasanya beliau bersabda :

“Artinya : Sesungguhnya keta’atan yang paling disegerakan pahalanya adalah silaturrahim. Bahkan hingga suatu keluarga yang ahli maksiat pun, harta mereka bisa berkembang dan jumlah mereka bertambah banyak jika mereka saling bersilaturrahim. Dan tidaklah ada suatu keluarga yang saling bersilaturrahim kemudian mereka membutuhkan

ternyata Islam menganjurkan untuk menjalin silaturahmi (termasuk salah satunya dengan cara pernikahan), dengan pihak yang "kalau bisa, belum ada hubungan silaturahminya"! :supz:
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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby Aku-Suka-Hujan » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:43 pm

Akan tetap yang jadi pertanyaan KENAPA PERNIKAHAN SEPUPU di dunia Islam hampir mendekati angka 50%???

Why???
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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby keeamad » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:53 pm

Aku-Suka-Hujan wrote:Akan tetapi yang jadi pertanyaan KENAPA PERNIKAHAN SEPUPU di dunia Islam hampir mendekati angka 50%???

Why???

Mungkin untuk menjaga harta kekayaan bro ....
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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby MaNuSiA_bLeGuG » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 pm

menikahi sepupu itu sunnah loh.... :lol:
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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby sixpackguy » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:37 am

Wakkakkakak muslim sahabat kapir buka trit yg nembak kaki sendiri lagi.
Ga tanggung2 kali ini quran dan muhammad ditudingnya pula soal perkawinan saudara sepupu. :lol:

QS. 4:23. Diharamkan atas kamu (mengawini) ibu-ibumu; anak-anakmu yang perempuan; saudara-saudaramu yang perempuan, saudara-saudara bapakmu yang perempuan; saudara-saudara ibumu yang perempuan; anak-anak perempuan dari saudara-saudaramu yang laki-laki; anak-anak perempuan dari saudara-saudaramu yang perempuan; ibu-ibumu yang menyusui kamu; saudara perempuan sepersusuan; ibu-ibu istrimu (mertua); anak-anak istrimu yang dalam pemeliharaanmu dari istri yang telah kamu campuri, tetapi jika kamu belum campur dengan istrimu itu (dan sudah kamu ceraikan), maka tidak berdosa kamu mengawininya; (dan diharamkan bagimu) istri-istri anak kandungmu (menantu); dan menghimpunkan (dalam perkawinan) dua perempuan yang bersaudara, kecuali yang telah terjadi pada masa lampau; sesungguhnya Allah Maha Pengampun lagi Maha Penyayang,

Captain Pancasila wrote:di situ kok nggak ada ya, "saudara sepupu"? :-k


Captain Pancasila wrote:First cousins share about an eighth of their genes, and are therefore more likely to receive two copies of some recessive gene that poses health problems. Scientists had assumed that the children of first cousins would therefore be more likely to be born with birth defects..

Captain Pancasila wrote:However, the authors note that the low rate that they cite for birth defects from cousin marriages is based on populations where the practice is rare; if cousins in such places marry, their offspring are likely to look outside the family for mates and will therefore bring new genes into the bloodline. Birth defects may be more likely in places where cousin marriages are commonplace, but the studies of this topic remain difficult and controversial. In February 2008, British Environment Minister Phil Woolas sparked a row in the United Kingdom when he attributed the high rate of birth defects in the Pakistani community to the practice of marriage between first cousins, the commentators said. Earlier studies estimated that between 55 per cent [and] 59 per cent of marriages continue to be between first cousins in Pakistan [CBC News].



Ane ikutan bantuin ente dah kali ini... :green:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... usins.html

Shameful silence: Why we need action to end the tragedy over disabled babies born to Muslims who marry their cousins

The Mail exposed the conspiracy of silence over disabled babies born to Muslims who marry their cousins. Here, YASMIN ALIBHAI-BROWN - six of whose cousins died from genetic disorders - says we now need action to end this growing tragedy

My mother had an older sister who was gentle, affectionate and generous. She was married to a first cousin — not a good husband or father — and they had eight children, most of whom inherited serious genetic disorders.
I loved them all dearly, and endured agonies as I watched one after the other die as adults after suffering for years with illness.

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Thus, today in Britain, this custom is found almost wholly within tightly knit Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities, particularly in Bradford, Kirklees, Huddersfield, parts of Leeds and some places in the South, too.
Here are the facts: while these families make up only three per cent of births in Britain, they account for one in three children born with genetic illnesses.

One study of 10,000 children, called Born In Bradford, has revealed that a disturbing proportion of those of Pakistani heritage have serious genetic illnesses. They are 13 times more likely than the general population to be born with birth defects. The majority of them marry first cousins, as their parents did, and that doubles the risk.
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Genetic problems: Many of the babies born from marriage between cousins suffer from ill-health
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In 2003, a girl called Amina was brought here from Mirpur in Pakistan. She was forced to marry her cousin six years ago when she was only 16. When they had a son who was severely disabled, her in-laws said she was a witch and threw her and her baby out.
Within days, Amina, whose parents are also cousins, had a serious psychotic incident and was sectioned, and her baby was taken into care.
When I was taken to see her by a Muslim doctor from Leeds, her hair had turned completely white and she didn’t talk at all. There are many more like her.

When I think of Amina, I ask myself: how can we keep silent about this?
For the sake of the children — and their despairing parents — it is time to act

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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby sixpackguy » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:46 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/ne ... 714582.stm

Bradford's cousin marriage boom

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Cousin marriage doubles the risk of passing on recessive genes
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Cousin marriage has important implications for health because marrying a cousin increases the risks of passing on genetic disorders. Bradford has three times the national rate among children for disabilities including deafness and blindness
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The problem with cousin marriage is that it doubles the risk of passing on the recessive genes that lead to abnormalities. Cystic fibrosis is the one we all know about, where two healthy parents carry a recessive gene for the condition.

"If a cousin has a genetic variant that causes a disease and marries a cousin with the same genetic variant, then there is a one in four chance that the children will have that disease," Professor Wright explains.

On the face of it the risk is not great - a 4% risk of having a child with an abnormality if you marry a cousin, compared with 2% among the general population. But with repeated cousin marriage, the risks stack up in families with sometimes devastating results.

We met Ruba who is 23. She has two children Alishbah, aged two and Hassam, aged four. Ruba was 18 when she married her second cousin. Her children have I-cell disease, a rare disorder which has prevented them growing and developing as they should, from the start.
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Captain Pancasila wrote:QS. 4:23. Diharamkan atas kamu (mengawini) ibu-ibumu; anak-anakmu yang perempuan; saudara-saudaramu yang perempuan, saudara-saudara bapakmu yang perempuan; saudara-saudara ibumu yang perempuan; anak-anak perempuan dari saudara-saudaramu yang laki-laki; anak-anak perempuan dari saudara-saudaramu yang perempuan; ibu-ibumu yang menyusui kamu; saudara perempuan sepersusuan; ibu-ibu istrimu (mertua); anak-anak istrimu yang dalam pemeliharaanmu dari istri yang telah kamu campuri, tetapi jika kamu belum campur dengan istrimu itu (dan sudah kamu ceraikan), maka tidak berdosa kamu mengawininya; (dan diharamkan bagimu) istri-istri anak kandungmu (menantu); dan menghimpunkan (dalam perkawinan) dua perempuan yang bersaudara, kecuali yang telah terjadi pada masa lampau; sesungguhnya Allah Maha Pengampun lagi Maha Penyayang,

di situ kok nggak ada ya, "saudara sepupu"? :-k

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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby sixpackguy » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:11 am

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/02 ... ink-twice/

Marrying a cousin? Think twice!

Muzaffar Ali Tuesday, 21 Feb 2012 10:59 am | Comments (20)
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Apart from a 50 percent higher risk of acquiring genetic disorders, mental, physical and sexual defects are also common in cousin marriages, a common term used for consanguineous marriages in Punjab,” a research study conducted by University of Health Sciences (UHS) Human Genetics and Biotechnology Department Head Prof Dr Muhammad Aslam Khan reads.
The study focused on patterns of cultural consanguinity in Punjab.
According to the study, another factor that hardly features in the debate around cousin marriages is the weddings inside the
‘birdari’ (clan), which pose as much risk as cousin marriages.
Over 82.5 percent parents in Pakistan are first cousins, 6.8 percent are blood relatives, 6.3 percent belong to the same caste and family, and only 4.4 percent are married out of their families.
A lot of international studies carried out in different parts of the world have also confirmed the hazards of consanguineous marriages and have suggested a comprehensive ban on cousin marriages across the globe.
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The study says that there is a 20 percent chance that the children can acquire a genetic problem. The data also shows that the infant mortality risk is higher (over 1.2 percent) in first-cousin marriages and in terms of birth defects, the risks rise from about 2 percent in the general population to 4 percent when the parents are closely related.
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He said it was also found that cousin marriage were the main reason for around 44 percent cases of thalassaemia in children.
He said after conducting interviews of 206 families in Lahore, it was discovered that 89 percent parents were knotted in consanguineous marriages. He said he had found one or more thalassaemia cases in the families where cousin marriages were common.The 206 families had given birth to 720 children, of which 318 children were inflicted with thalassaemia and 402 were found healthy.
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He said educating people about the hazards of cousin marriages is important and it should be done at all levels since talking about imposing ban on cousin marriages was not a sufficient way to control prevailing genetic disorders among the masses.


Captain Pancasila wrote:QS. 4:23. Diharamkan atas kamu (mengawini) ibu-ibumu; anak-anakmu yang perempuan; saudara-saudaramu yang perempuan, saudara-saudara bapakmu yang perempuan; saudara-saudara ibumu yang perempuan; anak-anak perempuan dari saudara-saudaramu yang laki-laki; anak-anak perempuan dari saudara-saudaramu yang perempuan; ibu-ibumu yang menyusui kamu; saudara perempuan sepersusuan; ibu-ibu istrimu (mertua); anak-anak istrimu yang dalam pemeliharaanmu dari istri yang telah kamu campuri, tetapi jika kamu belum campur dengan istrimu itu (dan sudah kamu ceraikan), maka tidak berdosa kamu mengawininya; (dan diharamkan bagimu) istri-istri anak kandungmu (menantu); dan menghimpunkan (dalam perkawinan) dua perempuan yang bersaudara, kecuali yang telah terjadi pada masa lampau; sesungguhnya Allah Maha Pengampun lagi Maha Penyayang,

di situ kok nggak ada ya, "saudara sepupu"? :-k

:lol:



Apalah yg ente harapkan dr seorang nabi palsu... [-X
Terbukti (maaf) kebodohan si muhammad dah SALAH NGASIH 'LABEL' HARAM.
Ngapain pula dia haramkan MAKAN BABI yg menyehatkan kalo dimasak dgn benar, sedangkan PERKAWINAN SAUDARA SEPUPU YG BERBAHAYA ini ngak diharamkannya.
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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby Jengkol » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:20 am

Captain Pancasila wrote:hanya karena pernikahan terhadap sepupu diperbolehkan, lantas apakah Islam menganjurkannya? :-k

banyak gw liat fatwa2 muslim yg bunyinya memperbolehkan tapi tidak menganjurkan :-k .... ini agama koq gk ada tegas2nya... kalo alloh tidak menganjurkan kenapa diperbolehkan???? (olloh lepas tanggung jawab menurut gw)... kalo sesuatu udah tau manusia pasti gk mampu atau dapat menyebabkan dosa knp gk dilarang aja sekalian.... ini seperti percakapan jihadis dan olloh


olloh : mujahid sekalian... ini C4 bom plastik berdaya ledak tinggi... boleh kamu gunakan utk ngebom kafir...tapi aku gk nganjurkan :-" (seperti meberi petunjuk pd adam mau bunuh kafir...ini lo caranya)
jihadis: owh gitu ya :finga: (menemukan ide baru cara utk membunuh kafir
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Re: Sepupu itu Bukan Mukhrim

Postby yahya832 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:29 am

Captain Pancasila wrote:hanya karena pernikahan terhadap sepupu diperbolehkan, lantas apakah Islam menganjurkannya? :-k

Jengkol wrote:banyak gw liat fatwa2 muslim yg bunyinya memperbolehkan tapi tidak menganjurkan :-k .... ini agama koq gk ada tegas2nya... kalo alloh tidak menganjurkan kenapa diperbolehkan???? (olloh lepas tanggung jawab menurut gw)... kalo sesuatu udah tau manusia pasti gk mampu atau dapat menyebabkan dosa knp gk dilarang aja sekalian.... ini seperti percakapan jihadis dan olloh[/b]

olloh : mujahid sekalian... ini C4 bom plastik berdaya ledak tinggi... boleh kamu gunakan utk ngebom kafir...tapi aku gk nganjurkan :-" (seperti meberi petunjuk pd adam mau bunuh kafir...ini lo caranya)
jihadis: owh gitu ya :finga: (menemukan ide baru cara utk membunuh kafir
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