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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby DHS » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:42 am

@tsunami,
maaf, ucapanmu hanya berlevel SAMPAH!! Kehadiranmu di sini tidak lain hanya mengotor2i forum.
Maaf, sekali lagi anda nyampah, saya tidak akan menanggapi lagi, melainkan lapor ke Moderator untuk menghapus posting anda. :-$
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby DHS » Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:30 am

@Maz,
International: Women victims of honor killing
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Yemen Observer
It is estimated by the United Nations Population Fund that as many as 5000 women and girls are murdered by family members each year in so-called “honor killings” around the world.
In Yemen, with an estimated population of 16 million, Mohammed Ba Obaid, who heads the department of Women’s Studies in Sana’a University, said his surveys found that more than 400 women were killed for reasons of “honor” in 1997.
A report prepared by the World Organisation Against Torture (OMCT) in 2002 states that there is very little information concerning the prevalence of ‘honor crimes’ in Yemeni society, and while some local non-governmental organizations have reportedly stated that the phenomenon is not widespread, other organizations assert that honor crimes do occur, but that they currently lack evidence to substantiate this claim. In one reported case from 1997, two Yemeni men allegedly bludgeoned their mother to death and threw her body onto a roadside embankment for “practicing immoral acts”. It is unknown whether the men were arrested or prosecuted for the murder. Honor killing, as defined by United Nations Children’s Fund UNICEF, is an ancient practice in which men kill female relatives in the name of family ‘honor’ for forced or suspected sexual activity outside marriage, even when they have been victims of rape.

These killings have been reported in Jordan, Yemen, Lebanon, Egypt and West Bank. The killings are also known in Syria, Iraq and other Persian Gulf countries and among Arabs in Israel. Honor killings are not exclusively an Arab phenomenon. The United Nations says such killings have been reported in Bangladesh, Turkey and Uganda. Afghanistan, where the practice was condoned under the rule of the fundamentalist Taliban movement, can be added to the list, along with Iran. Such killings have also occurred in Italy, Britain, Norway, Italy, Brazil, Ecuador, Sweden, Peru and Venezuela. At least one case has been reported in the US, but these crimes are labeled “crimes of passion” instead of “honor” crimes. However, some argue they should also be seen as honor killings.

“They are the same thing with a different name” some rights advocates say. In India, for example, more than 5,000 brides die each year because their dowries are considered insufficient, according to UNICEF. According to the Human Rights Commission, the total number of honor killings is much higher than reports indicate, as data from some provinces and some remote regions is not available. Information from UNICEF for 1997 states that around 1,000 girls and women are murdered each year in Pakistan. More than two-thirds of all murders in Gaza Strip and West Bank are honor killings. In Jordan, an average of twenty-five to thirty women are killed each year in the name of honor. In Lebanon, around 36 honor killings are reported each year, while in Egypt, some 52 honor killings reported every year.

Estimating the scale of the phenomenon is made more difficult not only by the problems of data collection in predominantly rural countries, but by the extent to which community members and political authorities collaborate in covering up the atrocities. In some countries such as Jordan, Morocco and Syria, “honor crimes” are also legally sanctioned and defense of the family honor is considered a mitigating factor. Legislation in various countries awards lesser punishment in cases where the victim is considered to have “provoked” the crime by violating cultural norms. Article 232 of the Penal Code of Yemen stat that “if a man kills his wife or her alleged lover in the act of committing adultery or attacking them causing disability, he may be fined or sentenced to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year.”

That rule is also applied on a man who surprised a “direct or subsidiary relation or sister” in the act of committing adultery. But in many countries activists and human-rights groups say that most killers receive light punishment, when they are prosecuted at all. Arab judges, who are almost always male, are generally allowed great latitude in sentencing, and most tend to see honor as a circumstance akin to self-defense. Nabil Al-Mohamedi, a lawyer who participated in the session discussing honor killing organized by the Sisters Arab Forum last year in Yemen, said that the article stated that the man should be surprised by his relative committing adultery. If he previously had suspicions about it happening then the law did not apply, he argued. “The relative must be in the act of committing adultery and not be, for example, only in a shameful position or naked” Al-Mohamedi, said.

The concepts of women as property and honor are so deeply entrenched in the social, political and economic fabric of society that the government, for the most part, ignores the daily occurrences of women being killed and maimed by their families. Frequently, women murdered in “honor” killings are recorded as having committed suicide or died in accidents. “We do not consider this as murder,” Wafik Abu Abseh, a 22-year-old Jordanian woodcutter is reported to have said about ‘honor’ killing, as his mother, brother and sisters nodded in agreement. “It was like cutting off a finger.” Honor killings of women reflect longstanding patriarchal-tribal traditions, which cast the male as the sole protector of the female, and so he must have total control of her. f his protection is violated, he loses honor because either he failed to protect her or he failed to bring her up correctly. The unwritten law argues that if someone is wronged, the perpetrator’s family must make amends - often with gifts or livestock - to avoid an injury to family honor that could end in a feud.

Restoring a woman’s honor, however, is a more complicated matter. If she’s believed to have had an affair, the only way to clear her name, if at all, is for her to be married to the man in question - or to be killed. Marzouk Abdel Rahim, a Cairo tile maker, stabbed his 25-year-old daughter to death at her boyfriend’s house in 1997, and then chopped off her head. He said he had no regrets. “Honor is more precious than my own flesh and blood,” said Abdel Rahim, who was released after two months. The typical “honor” killer is a man, usually the father, husband, or brother of the victim. Frequently teenage brothers are selected by their family or community to be the executioners, because their sentences will generally be lighter than those handed down to adults. While the victims of “honor” killings are overwhelmingly female, tradition dictates that males involved in the “crimes” should face death as well.

But the accused women are normally killed first, giving men a chance to flee retribution. According to Amnesty International, targeted men in Pakistan can escape death by paying compensation to the family of the female victim, leading to an “’honor killing industry’ involving tribespeople, police and tribal mediators,” which “provides many opportunities to make money, [or] obtain a woman in compensation”. Although most honor crimes occur in Muslim societies, Islam does not sanction such killings. “On the contrary, what’s there in the Qur’an, is against it,” said Mohammed Serag, a professor of Islamic studies at the American University in Cairo. “In the eyes of Islam, those people (who kill in the name of honor) are criminals.”

Islam, which emphasizes chastity for men and women, prescribes 100 lashes each for anyone who violates the Muslim code for behavior. But nothing in the Qur’an, supports the death punishment for honor-related transgressions. Serag said men who believe Islam approves of honor crimes may have misinterpreted the Qur’an, verse that allows husbands to beat their wives. Islam is clear on its prohibition of sexual relationships outside of marriage. This prohibition does not distinguish between men and women, even though, in some countries, women are uniformly singled out for punishment of sexual crimes while the men, even rapists, may be treated with impunity.

In order for a case to even be brought before a Muslim court, several strict criteria must be met. The most important is that any accusation of illicit sexual behavior must have been seen by four witnesses; and they must have been witness to the act of sexual intercourse itself. Other forms of intimacy do not constitute ‘zina’ and therefore are not subject to any legal consequences even though they are not appropriate and are considered sinful. On the other hand, a woman falsely accused of zina has in her support the Qur’an, which spells out harsh consequences for those accusers who are unable to support their allegations with four witnesses.

The Prophet Muhammad was known for his clemency, even if the accusations met the criteria, for he recognized the seriousness of the matter. In addition, there is no evidence whatsoever that he condoned any form of retribution that singled out women and he was swift to ensure that those accused of any crime received due process to guarantee justice.

By Elham Hassan
Jan 28, 2006 - Vol. IX Issue 03
Copyright Yemen Observer Newspaper
Submitted on 05/02/2006

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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby yusah » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:25 pm

nafa urbach kok jarang muncul di tv ya. dah redup kali ya sinarnya. ato gara-gara murtad ya. kacian deh nafa. masih di dunia udah siaal apalagi diakhirat.... keciaaannn de luh... (itu pun kalo bener dia murtad. kalo engga sorry deh)
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby ogliker » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:06 am

yusah wrote:nafa urbach kok jarang muncul di tv ya. dah redup kali ya sinarnya. ato gara-gara murtad ya. kacian deh nafa. masih di dunia udah siaal apalagi diakhirat.... keciaaannn de luh... (itu pun kalo bener dia murtad. kalo engga sorry deh)

Memang kagak muncul ditv,terus tidak bersinar...
Info belum jelas sudah ngambil kesimpulan. ](*,)
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby kapirun » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:16 am

yusah wrote: (itu pun kalo bener dia murtad. kalo engga sorry deh)


klo loe mang murtad..mampus loe kena azab..
klo loe islam...masya alloh itu cobaan dr alloh..

klo loe mang kafir..modar loe makanya jgn kafir..
klo loe islam..alloh sedang menguji iman kita..

kenapa ya gw sering ketawa liat statment2 slimer kyk gt :lol:
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby tsunami » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:15 pm

DHS wrote:@tsunami,
maaf, ucapanmu hanya berlevel SAMPAH!! Kehadiranmu di sini tidak lain hanya mengotor2i forum.
Maaf, sekali lagi anda nyampah, saya tidak akan menanggapi lagi, melainkan lapor ke Moderator untuk menghapus posting anda. :-$



:lol: :lol: :lol: Tolong sebtkan mana ucapanku yang berlevel sampah.apa buktinya aq hanya mengotor2i forum?
Aq cuma mau kalian tahu sekarang ini bknnya zaman kek dulu lagi.Sekarang semua informasi sudah dapat kita acces dari berbagai penjuru dunia,dan terbukti bahwa Islam semakin berkembang.Jadi jika seorang Nafa Urbach murtad itu adalah suatu berkah bagi ISLAM,karena orang seperti dia yang bisa cuma merugikan Islam.Aq mau kalian tahu bahwa sekarang yang berlomba2 memeluk Islam adalah orang2 yang berwawasan tinggi yang sudah mendapatkan berbagai titel,sedangkan yang murtat semua orang yang gak mau berfikir dan sangat dangkal wawasannya alias ***** ](*,) .
Sekali lagi coba kalian search berbagai info tentang Islam di google.
Dunia tidak seluas daun kelor bung,jangan jadi sperti katak di bawah tempurung.
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby fire » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:24 pm

bener tuh.... tsunami... DHS aja yang gak mikir...... mana ada untungnya islam di tinggali orang2 kek nafa urbach itu....... makin cepat murtad makin baik buat islam.......

islam kagak butuh orang2 kek urbach..... kagak ada andil apapun......

yg menguntungkan islam itu yah..... ane kasih tau...... orang kek osama, amrozi cs.... atau yg baru tuh siapa..... ada simponi2nya....eh, salah.... sonita...ah, salah lagi..... kali sonata yah....? :lol: .......nah itu tuh..... yg nguntungi eslam........ juga si utd bawasiiir ....he..he...... sekalian fbi..... oh, fpi..... ha..ha.... "p" nya kebalik..........

nah,.... gitu.... tau lo DBS.....eh,..... DHS..... ??? :green:
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby DHS » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:59 pm

tsunami wrote:Tolong sebtkan mana ucapanku yang berlevel sampah ....sedangkan yang murtat semua orang yang gak mau berfikir dan sangat dangkal wawasannya alias ***** ](*,)

Itu yang bintang2 ngomong apa kok sampe disensor? :-$

tsunami wrote:Itulah bodohnya si DHS ini,coba anda search di google,....Ayo nonmuslim,siapa berani?jangan jadi pengecut seperti si DHS.

nafa-urbach-murtad-muslim-kebakaran-jenggot-t37752/page100.html#p617513
Debat ya debat, tapi jangan menyerang pribadi!

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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby bigkong » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:41 am

maz wrote:lho...jeng nafa kok gk di penggal...
waduh.....kepriben sih



soalnya muslimnya pengecut, braninya penggal orang murtad yang ga berdaya...
kalo yang terkenal kaya mba Nafa takut mbok konangan dan merusak citra islam yang sudah rusak berantakan.
jadi mending tutupan sarung sambil nunggu lengah baru di pancung... :butthead:
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby jameela » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:37 am

dari:
nafa-urbach-murtad-muslim-kebakaran-jenggot-t37752/page80.html

maz by maz » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:45 pm wrote:tolong tunjukan ayat dalam alquran yang memerintah kan untuk membunuh karena sebab MURTADnya.atau dengan kata lain hukuman bunuh karena alasan keluar dari agama islam.,

by maz » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:34 pm
@suga
dalam Qs 6:151 sendiri tidak dijelaskan hukum murtad,anda bisa menunjukan bagian mana yang menjelaskan ..?
perbedaan pendapat terdapat pada terjemahan
"melainkan dengan sebab yang benar"
selanjutnya ditambahkan catatan kaki 518..
sebagainya.
maz wrote:
didunia hukuman bagi murtadin harus di bunuh.
golongan ini berpendapat murtadin harus di bunuh.
dasarnya :
QS 6 :151
dalam ayat ini mengambil tafsir dari hadist :
- Siapa saja yang mengganti agamanya maka bunuhlah. (HR al-Bukhari, an-Nasa'i, Abu Dawud, at-Tirmidzi, Ibn Majah dan Ahmad)
- Tidak halal darah (dihukum mati) seorang muslim kecuali karena salah satu dari tiga sebab. Pertama, duda atau janda yang berzina (juga suami atau isteri). Kedua, hukuman pembalasan karena menghilangkan nyawa orang lain (Qishas), dan ketiga, yang murtad dari Islam dan meninggalkan jama'ah. (HR. Bukhari).
dll.


dari hadist inilah kalangan umat islam sendiri mengalami perbedaan pendapat..
semua sudah tau hadist merupakan hukum nomor 2,apabila Alqur an bertentangan dengan hadist maka hadist tsb tidak digunakan............................................................
sedangkan saya disini sudah membawakan dasar hukum bagi murtadin dari Alqur an sebagai hukum utama.



quote diatas isinya slimmer maz membantah mati2an bahwa GAK ADA ayat kitab arab yang
menghukum mati murtadin.

tapi dasar slimmer PLINTAT PLINTUT :green:
di trit ini: bang-ucup-oh-bang-ucup-t39333/

ngomong gini :

adadeh wrote:Cut Tari beruntung tinggal di Jakarta. Jika masih tinggal di Serambi Mekah, dia bisa terancam hukuman rajam sampe mati.


ditimpali:
by maz » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:00 am wrote:untuk point ini,bung adadeh tepat sekali


mengamini hukum rajam untuk pezina, yang merupakan penjelasan ayat 6:151.

QUIZnya adalah : dinamakan apa perbuatan slimmer maz itu ???
a. tebal muka temboknya.
b. suka menampar muka sendiri.
c. hobby ber PLINTAT PLINTUT RIA .
d. SEMUANYA BENAR .

(pinjem punya jebot)
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby maz » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:22 pm

dalam posting ini bung adadh tidak membawa referensi,original postnya sbb :
adadeh wrote:Cut Tari beruntung tinggal di Jakarta. Jika masih tinggal di Serambi Mekah, dia bisa terancam hukuman rajam sampe mati.


jawaban saya :
untuk point ini,bung adadeh tepat sekali


Aceh Terapkan Hukum Rajam bagi Pelaku Zina

aceh-terapkan-hukum-rajam-bagi-pelaku-zina-t34980/

aceh memang menerapkan hukum rajam,
jadi apakah jawaban saya diatas salah,?
dimana letak kesalahanya,?
atau anda sedang mencari kesalahan saya.?
anda sudah jatuh utk yang ke 2.
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby jameela » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:34 pm

maz wrote:dimana letak kesalahanya,?
atau anda sedang mencari kesalahan saya.?


[mode 0on ON]
loh apa yang gue tulis itu salah ?
dimana letak kesalahannya ?
atau kau sedang mencari kesalahan gue ? :green:
[mode 0on OFF]

maz wrote:anda sudah jatuh utk yang ke 2.


[mode triumphalist ON]
perasaan bukankah kau yang jatuh terjungkel tak terhitung kali slim ??? :green:
[mode triumphalist OFF]

[mode serius ON]
ayatnya mana slim ??? :green:
[mode serius OFF]

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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby abdulraharja » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:52 pm

bangladesh menghapus hukum rajam dan hukum cambuk.
http://www.republika.co.id/berita/break ... dan-cambuk

sudah tidak sesuai zaman bung.

dan alasan POLIgAMI kana lebih banyak wanita dari pada pria.
alasan itu sudah tidak mendukung lagi.
karna menurut BPS ditahun 2010
jumlah pria di Indonesia lebih banyak dari wanita
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby mendoan » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:07 am

hah... BPS gila y?....
perbandingan ce banding co naik kk....
menurut ilmu kimianya.....dunia makin asam... dan gen X pada sperma lebuh mampu bertahan hdup pada kondisi asam
so.. kemungkinan besar jg yg lahir itu perempuan....

phew... nafa urbach? dari kristen, pindah ke islam, pindah lg ke kristen.....
adakah kemungkinan dia pindah agama lagi? silakan jawab sendiri...

NAFA jd murtad? then what?
ujung2nya di akhir dunia jg urusannya n tanggung jawabnya ke ALLAH sndiri2 kk...
silakan yg mau keluar islam.....
sesama muslim wajib mengingatkan... tp jika tidak bisa... yasudah....

Islam besar bukan karena jumlahnya kk....
Islam besar karena iman umatnya...........
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby abdulraharja » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:46 am

mendoan wrote:hah... BPS gila y?....
perbandingan ce banding co naik kk....
menurut ilmu kimianya.....dunia makin asam... dan gen X pada sperma lebuh mampu bertahan hdup pada kondisi asam
so.. kemungkinan besar jg yg lahir itu perempuan....

phew... nafa urbach? dari kristen, pindah ke islam, pindah lg ke kristen.....
adakah kemungkinan dia pindah agama lagi? silakan jawab sendiri...

NAFA jd murtad? then what?
ujung2nya di akhir dunia jg urusannya n tanggung jawabnya ke ALLAH sndiri2 kk...
silakan yg mau keluar islam.....
sesama muslim wajib mengingatkan... tp jika tidak bisa... yasudah....

Islam besar bukan karena jumlahnya kk....
Islam besar karena iman umatnya...........


BPS gila yah ?
rofl...
padahal data diambil setelah sensus penduduk 2010 loh.


besar apanya sih yg dimaksd ?
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby mendoan » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:57 am

halah... emank sensus indonesia ada yg bner....

adakah yg suka biologi dsni..... gen X yg dbawa sperma ayah biar anaknya jd perempuan kemungkinan besar selamat n membuahi ovum jika suasananya asam...

untuk lbh pahamnya baca buku biologi kelas 12 SMA semester 2 kk....
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby abdulraharja » Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:13 am

mendoan wrote:halah... emank sensus indonesia ada yg bner....

adakah yg suka biologi dsni..... gen X yg dbawa sperma ayah biar anaknya jd perempuan kemungkinan besar selamat n membuahi ovum jika suasananya asam...

untuk lbh pahamnya baca buku biologi kelas 12 SMA semester 2 kk....

haha..
kau pertanyakan saja pada BPS kenapa bs keluar seperti itu hasil nya :P
setau saya biro pusat statistik melakukan pendataan BUKAN dari buku biologi kelas 12sma semester 2.
tapi data diambil langsung dari rumah per rumah.
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby kuta bali » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:32 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio

Baca disitu untuk melihat jumlah wanita dibanding pria didunia.

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Yang warna merah, jumlah cewek lebih banyak dari cowo. Cuma sedikit kan?
Secara global jumlah cowo lebih besar dari cewe.

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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby Auwo SWT » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:50 pm

Untung Saja Waktu Ayahku Pindah Ke Katholik Gak Ada Masalah. Kalau Seperti :axe: Pasti Aku Gak pernah nongol Disini.
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Re: Nafa Urbach Murtad, Muslim Kebakaran Jenggot

Postby makruf » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:08 pm

Islam harusnya mawas diri, mengaku agama damai tapi tingkah lakunya seoerti iblis.
Bagaimana orang mau tertarik masuk islam ? dasar dongol
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