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Muhammed : Sayap Lalat adalah Obat (???)

Postby spaceman » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:36 am

Lalat adalah Obat ?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/flies.html

Diriwayahkan Abu Huraira:
Sang nabi mengatakan, "Jika seekor lalat jatuh ke dalam minuman dari setiap orang di antaramu, dia harus menenggelamkannya (ke dalam minuman), karena salah satu sayapnya membawa penyakit dan sayap lainnya mempunyai penyembuh untuk penyakit tersebut." (Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537)

Berikut ini apa yang dikatakan dunia kesehatan :

Ada banyak bakteri dan parasit yang dibawa lalat shg lalat menjadi faktor umum dalam penyebaran banyak penyakit dgn cara sentuhan pada permukaan sebuah obyek dengan kaki atau air liur mereka. Setelah berjalan2 di atas banyak kotoran, seekor lalat bisa membawa sampai dengan 6 juta bakteri pada KAKI2nya. MAKA KITA PERLU MENGKHAWATIRKAN MAKANAN YANG TELAH DIHINGGAPI OLEH SEEKOR LALAT ! Berikut ini beberapa informasi mengenai penyakit2 yang diketahui penyebarannya oleh lalat. (Sumber: http://library.thinkquest.org/C0117442/ ... eases.html)

Ilmuwan bakteriologi manapun akan menganggap teori ini tidak mungkin, tapi kalau ada penyakit yang terbawa oleh salah satu SAYAP seekor lalat dan penawarnya berasal dari sayap lainnya, bagaimana mengenai penyakit yg dikandung KAKI2 lalat tersebut ? Mengapa Muhammad berbicara ttg SAYAP sementara sumber utama infeksi ada pada KAKI lalat ?

Mengapa Muhammad memastikan dalam instruksinya bahwa kalau lalat tsb ditenggelamkan dalam minuman, penyakit yg disimpan dlm tubuh si lalat bisa dikeluarkan dan ditransfer kembali kedalam tubuhnya (lewat sayapnya) ?

Website lain mengutarakan mengenai lalat:
… Lalat bersayap dua merupakan satu jenis dari sejumlah besar serangga yg terdiri dari 110.000 species yang berbeda2. Grup ini terdiri dari jenis2 serangga yang sangat spesifik dan masing2 species memiliki akibat yg sangat spesifik bagi kesehatan manusia. Peribahasa “jinak bak seekor lalat” sudah pasti tidak dimaksudkan bagi lalat biasa atau sejenisnya.

Penyakit2 seperti malaria, disentri, sakit lemas (sleeping sickness by Tsetse flies – Merriam Webster’s), cacingan (onchocerciasis), kaki gajah (elephantiasis) dan sakit kuning dibawa atau disebarkan dari manusia ke manusia melalui lalat2 bersayap ganda pengisap darah. Banyak penyakit lainnya disebarkan secara otomatis oleh lalat dgn cara mengisap cairan dari kotoran dan material organik yang membusuk dan kemudian menjangkiti makananmu.

Lalat diciptakan utk mendistribusikan organisme penyakit yang mematikan. Keenam kakinya dilengkapi dengan bulu2 halus, cairan2 yang melengket dan antenanya yang berambut. Cairan yang lengket berasal dari lubang batang bulu pada kaki2 mereka yang membuat mereka mampu berjalan terbalik dan di permukaan kaca, dll. Daerah pencernaan lalat adalah sebuah incubator kuman ! Sejak kecil ibuku sudah mengajarku agar, ”Tutup pintu, jangan biarkan lalat2 masuk!” Ini nasihat yang baik – bahkan lebih baik lagi jika kita punya pintu lapis kedua sebagai penghalang ekstra terhadap serangan lalat.

…Seekor lalat yang cukup makan membuang kotoran setiap 5 menit sekali!

(Sumber: http://www.thebestcontrol.com/bugstop/control_flies.htm)

Tidak diragukan, tekanan yang dilakukan pada seekor lalat dengan cara menenggelamkannya, hanya akan membuatnya muntah dan membuang lebih banyak kotoran lagi dan meninggalkan sebuah porsi kuman ekstra ke dalam minuman anda !

Link pertama di atas menyediakan sebuah daftar yang lengkap mengenai penyakit2 yang disebarkan oleh lalat:

Leishmaniasis
This disease is found in South America, Africa, Indian Subcontinent and Europe.
It's caused by a parasitic protozoan transmitted by the bite of sand flies.
Symptoms of this disease usually includes fever, weakness, swollen spleen, and skin sores.
There is no treatment for this disease; it eats away at your skin.


Onchocerciasis
Onchocerciasis, also known as River Blindness is an infectious cause of blindness.
It is carried by a minute nematode worm that is spread by the Simulium black fly.
Found in South America and Africa, a bite from this insect can transmit the worm to its victim.
The drug invermectin has helped stop the progress of the disease.

African Trypanosomiasis
This is a sleeping sickness and epidemic caused by a protozan blood parasite Trypanosoma.
It is transmitted by the salivary glands of infected Tsetse flies in Africa.
Symptoms include a boil- like sore at the site of the bite, fever, headaches, and severe illness.
Treatment should apply in the early stages of the disease by anti-parasitic drugs.

Bartonellosis
Found in South America, this disease is caused by the rickettsia organism transmitted by the bite of a Sand Fly.
Victims are usually exhausted from anemia, and experience a high fever and wart-like eruptions on the skin.
Treatment is available.

Myiasis
This disease occurs mostly on animals such as dogs and sheep and cows, but sometimes it may occur on humans, more frequently carried by the Cheese Skipper fly.
It is transmitted by a fly that lays its eggs on the skin of another organism. The larvae can burrow into the skin or penetrate itself in open wounds.
Symptoms include violent abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea with bloody discharge.
There is currently no treatment for this disease (on humans, that is; on animals insecticides are used), except to either let the larvae grow and leave at its own accord, or to remove it by enticing it.

Typhoid (Typhus)
Flies rummaging around excrement may come across bacteria known as Salmonella Typhi, which may come from a person shedding it.
This disease is a type of fever. Symptoms include a body temperature of as high as 103° to 104° F (39° to 40° C), weakness, stomach pains, headaches, and/or loss of appetite.
This disease can be found all over the world except in industrial countries such as United States, Western Europe, and Japan.
Treated with the drug chloromycetin, or ampicillin for those infected with bacteria that is immuned chloromycetin.

Dysentery (Disentri)
This is a chronic disease that affects the large intestine in humans.
The parasite Entamoeba histolytica is the cause of this disease. This particular parasite can be found in uncooked meats, and may be transported by flies.
This disease is characteristic of severe diarrhea and severe stomach cramps.
Treatment with drugs containing metronidazole or ementine is recommended.

Leprosy (Kusta)
Leprosy, also known as Hansen's Disease, is a chronic disease that affects mainly the skin.
It is caused by the bacillus Mycobacterium leprae, which may be carried by flies from rotted foods.
An early symptom is anesthesia (or the numbness) of a patch of skin. Some muscles may be paralyzed. Because of the numbness of some nerves, injuries to the area are not noticed.
This disease is generally rare nowadays, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. A vaccine for leprosy is currently being developed.
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Re: Muhammed : Sayap Lalat adalah Obat (???)

Postby cekixkix » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:29 pm

Kheknya lalat ijo obat untuk IMAM MAHDI... Cekixkix...kix...kix.. :rolling: :turban: :turban: :turban: :turban:
http://haniifa.wordpress.com/2010/11/10/al-mahdi-alaihi-salam-suka-laler-ijo/
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Postby ali5196 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:24 pm

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... tiful-end/

Islamic science has come to this pitiful end
January 29, 2012 at 4:00 pm PZ Myers
The words of the Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu ‘aleihi was-sallam) have been tested scientifically, and found hilarious. In work carried out under the direction of Dr. Jamaal Haamid, students at Qassim University examined a saying by the prophet, and have published it in a freely available pdf, The Hadeeth on the Fly, which you can download if you desire. Or you could just read this post, which summarizes entirely the complete content of the short paper, which is pretty much unpublishable and unbelievable anyway.

Here are the holy words.


(Notice that I include the original Arabic so there can be no confusion!)
If a housefly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for the one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure of the disease.
I do find that rather disturbing: so in Arabia, if a fly touches your water, you’re supposed to catch it, dunk it in deeper and slosh it around, to prevent disease? Arabian flies buzz around with pathogens segregated to just one wing, while the other one is healthy? How do they do that?

OK, setting aside the sanitary habits of Arabians and the mechanism by which this holy aphorism could be true, our intrepid students do carry out the obvious experiment: they drop a fly in a flask of sterile water, and then they pluck out the fly and immerse it completely in a second flask of sterile water. But then it all goes horribly wrong.

Here is the result of experiment #1.


Plate 2- Cultured water sample taken from a flask containing sterilized water and where a fly fell (without submersion). Growth of pathogenic (disease causing) bacterial colonies of the E. coli type were identified after taking samples from the water in the flask for culture.
Plate 1- Cultured water sample from the same flask following the complete dipping of the fly. An entire disappearance of the bacterial growth seen in Petri-dish 2 is clear. The new bacteria growing in plate 1 was identified as Actinomyces, the one from which useful antibiotics can be extracted. This explains the complete inhibition of growth in plate 2
Plate 2 on the right is the one from water merely touched by a fly. There is no explanation for how the plate was produced, or how the bacteria were identified; the strange brown sludge suggests poor technique, though, and I’ve cultured E. coli myself — and that hideous thick fecal-colored glop looks nothing like E. coli.

Plate 1 on the left, made from water in which the fly was fully immersed, looks nasty too. It’s a poor photograph, but that looks like a thick lawn of colonies everywhere. How do they know it’s Actinomyces? I have no idea, they don’t say. It’s also a mistake to simply declare it beneficial — Actinomyces are opportunistic pathogens.

Experiment #2 was a different fly, two flasks of water, same result.

Experiment #3 was a third fly, two flasks of water, same result.

Having done the experiment to death, our brave students retired at the third repetition, wrote it up with no methods, no discussion, no literature cited (except for their holy book, of course), and no reliable, believable data. They also didn’t do the other obvious experiment, of snipping off the wings and examining the bacterial flora living on the left vs. right, but then, maybe they’re leaving that for the advanced students.

Any 10 year olds looking for a quick and easy science fair project, there it is. I’m sure you can replicate this experiment trivially — but please, talk to a real microbiologist first and learn how to streak a plate. You might also learn something about a control plate, which our U of Qassim students didn’t bother to do.

Of course, this work wasn’t carried out by 10 year olds. It was done by university students in a “Med 497″ (a medical course?) in a department of medical microbiology. I strongly urge anyone visiting Saudi Arabia to avoid getting sick. They might try to treat you by swishing a fly around in your coffee.
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Re: Muhammed : Sayap Lalat adalah Obat (???)

Postby keeamad » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:05 pm

Skarang coba aja langsung,
suruh slimer minum jus jeruk campur lalat ijo .....

Tapi mungkin juga orang tsb fine2x aja,
scara tubuh manusia normal yg sehat punya sistem imun ....
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Postby swasanazegger » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:12 pm

keeamad wrote:Skarang coba aja langsung,
suruh slimer minum jus jeruk campur lalat ijo .....

Tapi mungkin juga orang tsb fine2x aja,
scara tubuh manusia normal yg sehat punya sistem imun ....


muslim mode on: subanallah, apa yang dikatakan kafir bahwa lalat membawa penyakit tidak terbukti!!! aulohku barbar
muslim mode off



kafir : :stun:
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Postby keeamad » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:14 pm

keeamad wrote:Skarang coba aja langsung,
suruh slimer minum jus jeruk campur lalat ijo .....

Tapi mungkin juga orang tsb fine2x aja,
scara tubuh manusia normal yg sehat punya sistem imun ....


swasanazegger wrote:muslim mode on: subanallah, apa yang dikatakan kafir bahwa lalat membawa penyakit tidak terbukti!!! aulohku barbar
muslim mode off



kafir : :stun:


wah saya tertawa sampai keluar air mata bro ...
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Postby gateway » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:13 pm

Salah satu link tentang keajaiban lalatnya versi muhammad
http://www.facebook.com/notes/islamic-s ... 500?ref=nf
Kok beda yah???
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Postby keeamad » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:00 pm

Penelitinya orang muslim smua,
ya gak aneh lah bela2x in momek .....

BTW. Bikin laporannya aja udah salah di situs tsb,
gimana bisa dipertanggungjawabkan kebenarannya ?

1. sample air steril dimana lalat dimasukkan sedemikian rupa sehingga hanya pada bagian sayap lalat saja, dan
2. sample air steril yang dimasukkan lalat yang dicelup seluruh tubuhnya. Semua ini dilakukan secara aseptis (bebas mikroba) di ruangan khusus, untuk menghindarkan terjadinya kontaminasi luar yang akan membuat hasil penelitian menjadi bias.

Perhatikan point no 1, bagaimana mencerna kalimat tsb hingga bisa dimengerti oleh nalar / logika ?

Tapi pada laporan berikutnya :
Cawan Petri 1 :
sampel kultur air yang diambil dari sebuah tabung yang berisi air steril yang dicelupkan lalat secara sempurna (seluruh tubuhnya terbenam).

Cawan Petri 2 :
sampel kultur air yang diambil dari sebuah tabung yang berisi air steril yang dijatuhkan seekor lalat ke dalamnya tanpa
membenamkannya.

Lihat point2x 1 dan 2 antara keterangan (yg begitu jelas) dengan praktiknya saling terbalik ....

Taqiya detected la yauw ......
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Re: Muhammed : Sayap Lalat adalah Obat (???)

Postby Chunk » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:19 pm

gateway wrote:Salah satu link tentang keajaiban lalatnya versi muhammad
http://www.facebook.com/notes/islamic-s ... 500?ref=nf
Kok beda yah???
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Thanks bro. dah aq baca, komennya lucu lucu juga.. ada yang suka lalat dab buat obat aids segala :lol:

Salahudin Salafus Soleh:
"Alhamdulillah pernah pny pngalaman sendiri,,,minumanku kecemplungan lalat trus q ingat hadist in, trus q celupin lalatny trus q minum minumanku hasilny q sehat2 aj he..."
12 octobre 2011, 08:41 · 2


Ryan Znella Lemuria Dikara:
" i like lalat...makan lalat yg kecil 7 buah atw lalat hejo yg gede 3 buah..bagus skali buat antibiotik.."
10 novembre 2011, 20:04

New Binda:
"Lebih baik lagi di makan hidup2 lalatnya. . Pengidap penyakit AIDS bisa sembuh dgn mkan lalat 1 hari 1 ekor sampe anti bodynya kmbli n0rmal.
Ksimpulannya.. apapun virusnya, tangkap lalat lalu makan hidup2!! Lalat itu penawar dr sgla pnyakit akibat trinfeksi virus."
12 novembre 2011, 19:09
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Re: Muhammed : Sayap Lalat adalah Obat (???)

Postby keeamad » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:59 pm

aids disembuhkan dengan makan lalat ?

saya percaya 100% bro.

sayang belum sembuh benar penderita aids itu,
ajalnya sudah keburu datang - karena umurnya yang habis / sampai ....,
jadi bukan karena penyakit lo' bro ......
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Postby Chunk » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:33 pm

wkwkwkwk.. ntar ada ekstrak lalat ijo, suplemen lalat ijo, vitamin lalat ijo..
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Postby gateway » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:49 pm

Saking terpesonanya, rata2 semua memuji kebesaran auwloh mereka.. tapi apakah sudah didibuktikan oleh mereka..?? kalau dikasih jus/kapsul/pil eksrak atau apa saja yg dari laler apa mereka mau minum??? :-"
Paling2 taqiya islamnya keluar lagi.. :---)
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Postby Chephot Gugat » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:19 am

iya bener obat buat obesitas..kan jadinya mereka akan kehilangan berat badannya karena moncor-moncor :rolling:
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Postby Chunk » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:10 pm

mantab! jadi thread sendiri nih. "obat diet ala islam!" :rofl:
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Postby bluelotusfriend » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:02 pm

om Ce EEEEsss ... kutunggu kau disini, menjelaskan mengapa lalat gak haram ... :rofl: :rofl:
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Postby keeamad » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:47 am

obat dalam pengertian sperti obat nyamuk,
nyamuk dikasih obat nyamunk malah mokad ...

begitu juga dengan sayap lalat,
lalatnya aja mokad kena obat lalat,
apalagi manusia yang makan lalat mokad tsb ?
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