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tdk semua muslim spt itu. waktu kerusuhan mei, bbrp teman2 banyak yg menolong etnis cina. banyak pak haji yg sembunyikan keluarga cina utk menghindari amukan massa. sy setuju pelaku kekejian mei tsb di tangkap.

Postby ali sina » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:22 pm

http://muslim-responses.com/Ali_Sinas_M ... tal_State_

http://muslim-responses.com/Ali_Sinas_M ... tal_State_

Ini ada satu tulisan berbahasa Inggris yang mudah2an bisa menyadarkan para bule. Ada juga presentasinya dan foto2 buktinya:
http://islammyreligion.wordpress.com/20 ... the-world/
(mohon maaf bila salah ketik)
Is Islam the Most Violent Religion in the World?
Hatred Against Islam
Pope Benedict XVI quoted Emperor Manuel II Paleologos of the Byzantine Empire, the Orthodox Christian:
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.“*

Samuel P Huntington: Islam is Number 1 Enemy
Since Pre-Crusades until now many prominent Christians often describe Islam as evil and terrorist. Islam is their enemy that should be destroyed.

*Source: BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/europe/ 5346480.stm

pizzaroSpreading Christianity by Sword
Colonialism and Imperialism:
From 15th – 20th Centuries Spain, Portuguese, British Kingdom, Dutch, and France invading Africa, Asia, and America for Gold, GOD, and Glory.Queen Isabella support exploration primarily to spread Christianity (MS Encarta, Spanish Empire).
Livonian Order joined Teutonic Knights in forcing Slavs to convert to Christianity (MS Encarta, Military Religious Orders)
Spreading Christianity with sword. Every warship has priests on it.
“Explorers” such as Pizzaro and Cortez slaughtered many native people. Others make native people as slaves including the Afro-American.

Hundreds of million people killed, enslaved, and wounded in Africa, Asia, Australia, and America Inquisition inquisitionEuropean countries spread their religious beliefs and eliminate other religions. Roman Catholic countries, particularly Spain, set out to convert non-Christian native peoples. Protestant countries also used religion as a motive for expansion. Beginning in the 19th century, Britain’s missionary movements served as a significant reason for that country’s colonial efforts

Microsoft Encarta, Colonialism and Colonies
Torture was used frequently during the Inquisition to obtain confessions of heresy MS Encarta, Inquisition Rob Land and Build Countries British Colonists robbed Aboriginal land and slaughtered them

Microsoft Encarta, Aboriginal Australians
The Indians slaughtered and become minority in US and Canada
killingaboriginesBa rbara Miller: ‘Declaring Australia Terra Nullius , uninhabited, and killing off any Aboriginal resistance to land seizure with superior weaponry, diseases, poisoned water-holes and flour laced with arsenic, the British settlers set up institutions and governments which have perpetrated their violent domination …‘*

US, Canada, and Australia are countries of successful invasion

http://www.sydneyline.com/Terra% 20Nullius% 20uses.htm

“Civilization”
Antonio’s Song, Michael Frank:
The blankets they give the Indians only make them die.The Whites give contaminated blankets to Indians to kill them banishingtheindians
“The Trail of Tears”, Robert Lindneux, depicts the forced migration of Native Americans from the eastern US to the Indian Territory in Oklahoma during the 1830s and early 1840s. Among those peoples forced to make the journey on foot were the Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, and Chickasaw. Many died on the long, hard journey

Microsoft Encarta, Native Americans of North America

“Civilization” #2

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U.S. Cavalry killed hundreds of Sioux men, women, and children who had fled to a camp along Wounded Knee Creek.
Sand Creek Massacre,.1864, Colonel John M. Chivington and his soldiers killed 200 Cheyenne and Arapaho people, most of whom were still sleeping

Microsoft Encarta, Native Americans of North America
Slavery
slavery
More than 10 million Africans forcibly transported to America for 200 years. For 1 captive there are 10 people died defending their family. Human cargo packed tightly that it was impossible to move Portuguese monopoly Slave Trade followed by British, Holland, France, Denmark, and the American colonies joined in transporting slaves from Africa to the New World.

Microsoft Encarta, Slavery

Who Start World War I? World War I: The First Bloody World War (1914-1918)
+10 Million Soldiers died
+20 Million Soldiers wounded
Who start the war? France, Russia, Britain against Germany and Austro-Hungary. . Mostly Christians. Not Muslim! \:D/

Microsoft Encarta, World War I

Who Start World War II? atom bomb in hiroshima.World War II: The Bloodiest War (1939-1945) 55 Million people died
Who start the war? France, Russia, Britain against Germany, Italy, and Japan. Mostly Christians. Not Muslim!

Microsoft Encarta, World War II
World War II Aftermath
55 Million people died by the war waged by France, Russia, Britain, US against Germany, Italy, and Japan. Do you still think Islam is the most violent religion in the world? atombombinjapan Who Start Crusades War? Crusades War (1096-1291) Millions people died.Who start the war? siegeofjerusalemWestern European Christians by Pope Urban II’s Order! Not Muslim!

Microsoft Encarta, Crusades

The Christians always slaughter many Muslims when they had victories (Kingdom of Heaven Movie). War by the Christians Not in the name of God? Siege of Jerusalem The western European Christian armies of the First Crusade surrounded the city of Jerusalem in June 1099. In mid-July, after a long siege, the Crusaders took the city by storm and massacred many of its inhabitants.

Microsoft Encarta, Crusades
Bible Verses on War
1 Samuel 15
1 Then Samuel said to Saul, “The LORD sent me to anoint you as king over His people, over Israel; now therefore, listen to the words of the LORD. 2 “Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he set himself against him on the way while he was coming up from Egypt. 3 ‘Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

New American Standard Bible
Hosea 13:16 “they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with children shall be ripped up.”
Exodus 32:27 “Thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, . . . and slay every man his brother, . . . companion, . . . neighbor.”
I Samuel 6:19 ” . . . and the people lamented because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.”
New American Standard Bible
TemplarsThe Templars, Hospitalers, Teutonic Knights are Military Religious Orders
MS Encarta, Military Religious Orders
The Misquoted Quran Verses 1
“Those of them with whom thou madest a treaty, and, then at every opportunity they break their treaty, and they keep not duty (to Allah)” [Quran 8:56]

Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others beside them whom ye know not. Allah knoweth them. Whatsoever ye spend in the way of Allah it will be repaid to you in full, and ye will not be wronged” [Quran 8:60]
“And if they incline to peace, incline thou also to it, and trust in Allah. Lo! He is the Hearer, the Knower” [Quran 8:61]
The Noble Qur’an, Islamasoft Solution

The Misquoted Quran Verses 2
“Those who disbelieve and turn (men) from the way of Allah, He rendereth their actions vain” [Quran 47:1]
“Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance).. And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain” [Quran 47:4]

The Noble Qur’an, Islamasoft Solution
The Misquoted Quran Verses 3
“They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,” [Quran 4:89]

“Except those who seek refuge with a people between whom and you there is a covenant, or (those who) come unto you because their hearts forbid them to make war on you or make war on their own folk. Had Allah willed He could have given them power over you so that assuredly they would have fought you. So, if they hold aloof from you and wage not war against you and offer you peace, Allah alloweth you no way against them” [Quran 4:90]

The Noble Qur’an, Islamasoft Solution

The Misquoted Quran Verses 4

“And remember, when ye were few and reckoned feeble in the land and were in fear lest men should extirpate you…” [Quran 8:26]
And when those who disbelieve plot against thee (O Muhammad) to wound thee fatally, or to kill thee or to drive thee forth; they plot, but Allah (also) plotteth; and Allah is the best of plotters” [Quran 8:30]
Tell those who disbelieve that if they cease (from persecution of believers) that which is past will be forgiven them; but if they return (thereto) then the example of the men of old hath already gone (before them, for a warning)” [Quran 8:38]
“And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do” [Quran 8:39]

Just read the verses related before and after to understand the context.

The Noble Qur’an, Islamasoft Solution
Islam the Peaceful Religion

“There is no compulsion in religion…” [Quran 2:256]
“…So long as they are true to you, be true to them. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty” [Quran 9:7]
“…So, if they hold aloof from you and wage not war against you and offer you peace, Allah alloweth you no way against them” [Quran 4:90]
“And if they incline to peace, incline thou also to it, and trust in Allah. Lo! He is the Hearer, the Knower” [Quran 8:61]
“There is no good in much of their secret conferences save (in) him who enjoineth alms giving and kindness and peace making among the people. Whoso doeth that, seeking the good pleasure of Allah, We shall bestow on him a vast reward” [Quran 4:114]

The Noble Qur’an, Islamasoft Solution

Defensive War Only
muslimskilled by israel soldiers
“Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not, aggressors” [Quran 2:190]
“And those who, when great wrong is done to them, defend themselves, The guerdon of an ill deed is an ill the like thereof. But whosoever pardoneth and amendeth, his wage is the affair of Allah. Lo! He loveth not wrong doers
And whoso defendeth himself after he hath suffered wrong for such, there is no way (of blame) against them” [Quran 42:39-41]

The Noble Qur’an, Islamasoft Solution
The First 3 Big wars: Badr War, Uhud War, and Khandaq War happened near Madina (Muslim Capital) when the Infidel of Mecca attacked the Muslims.
After the 3 attacks, The Muslims conquered Mecca with almost no bloodshed except for a few war criminals
The war between Muslims against Roman and Persian Empire also started by the Roman in Mu’tah War
Muhammad Durra’s father helplessly try to protect his son from Israel soldiers

Islam Gives Freedom
Islam freed the people from Byzantines and Sassanids occupation and heavy taxes.
“During the first years of the Umayyad caliphate the jizyah was significantly less than the heavy taxes that had been exacted by the Byzantines and the Sassanids. Therefore, it probably did not seem particularly onerous to most of the Caliph’s subjects. In fact, compared with conditions under the Byzantines and Sassanids, the period of the Arab Umayyad dynasty (661-751) was one of extraordinary religious and cultural tolerance for the non-Muslim subject populations

MS Encarta, Internationalizatio n of Islam, By Richard Foltz

Muslims as War Victims
Million Muslims killed by Christians during Crusades war.Million Muslims killed during 15th-20th centuries colonialism
Thousands Muslims slaughtered and raped in Bosnia Herzegovina muslim littlegirl killed by israel soldiers
Million Muslims killed in invasion in Afghanistan and Iraq by US and its Allies.
Muslims slaughtered and treated as second class citizen by Israel
Many Muslim women and children in Palestine killed by Israel.

It is a war against terrorists, they said….

Epilogue
Peace is all we want! I have seen many articles or prominent figures saying bad things about Islam such as Islam is terrorist, Islam is killer, Islam is the most violent religion in the world, etc. As a result, many Muslims become victims from the Crusades era until US invasion in Afghanistan and Iraq. Muslims are terrorists that should be killed! That is what the warmonger had in mind. By this presentation I hope other people could see that violent happens everywhere in every religion. Introspection is all we need.

Reference:
• MS Encarta
• The Noble Qur’an, Islamasoft Solution
• New American Standard Bible
• BBC News - http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/europe/ 5346480.stm
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> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Wong Lim Pok <wong.lim.pok@ gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dalam satu Seminar tentang Populasi Penduduk di West Coast USA, salah satupemateri dari Belanda menggambarkan tentang penyebaran populasi penduduk dan cara mengontrolnya. Disebutkan juga negara-negara yang sistemnya gagal
mengontrol populasi penduduk yaitu Indonesia, China, dan India. Saya yang dari Indonesia langsung naik daun .. eh naik darah ... kuping... jadi merah.
Saya langsung menanggapi bahwa ketiga negara yang dimisalkan oleh sibule tersebut adalah negara yang sudah benar cara
> mengontrol penduduknya dan yang salah sistem adalah negara Caucasian di Eropah. Buktinya Indonesia, China
> > dan India tidak pernah mengambil negara lain untuk menyebarkan populasi penduduknya. Tapi cara negara eropah mengontrol penduduknya adalah dengan cara hijrah ke negara lain, bunuh penduduknya dan menetap di situ. Contohnya
negara US ini di mana orang Indian dimusnahkan kemudian tanahnya dirampas.
> > Contoh: Pada awal orang Eropah datang di Idaho sendiri 800 suku Indian, sekarang ini hanya tinggal satu suku dan itu pun tinggal di kawasan reservasi. Seluruh benua Amerika dirampas, Australia, New Zealand, Canada dan Africa Selatan. Nah, apa jadinya kalau seluruh bule di Amerika, Canada, Australia, dan New Zealand disuruh pulang ke Eropah,
> terpaksa tidur berdiri.
> >
> > Si Bule itu pun merah mukanya. Saya tambah lagi, untung Indonesia punya dua musim, yaitu hujan dan kering. Coba kalau Indonesia dan Malaysia punya 4 musim seperti eropah, sampai sekarang kita masih dijajah seperti Amerika dan
> > Canada. South Africa has four season like Europe, and until the end of apartheid era the "Bule" under Botha still
> "bermastautin" there.Yang lebih menyedihkan lagi, orang Amerika buat film koboy dan dengan bangganya ditunjukkan bagaimana membantai orang Indian, baik dengan peluru maupun dengan virus kolera dengan cara membagi selimut tebalyang ditebari virus kolera di musim dingin. Suku-suku yang tersisa dibarter kulit dengan senapang dan bir, sehingga ketika mabuk suku-suku tersebut dengan lebih cepat dan mudah memusnahkan bangsanya sendiri.Sekarang si Bule yang menang mengkampanyekan tentang HAM.
> Maaf bagi yang tidak berkenan..
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> > Wong
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: is-lam-bounces@ milis.isnet. org
> [mailto:is-lam-bounces@ milis.isnet. org]
> > On Behalf Of A Nizami
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:44 PM
> > To: is-lam@milis. isnet.org
> > Subject: [is-lam] Bls: Deterring Democracy Was RE:
> Ummat Islam Tidak Radikal
> > - Bls: [ppiindia] Diskusi: Radikalisasi di Sekolah
> Negeri
> >
> > Yah begitulah mas Wong.Sebenarnya orang-orang Barat itulah yang paling barbar. Mereka paling banyak membantai manusia seperti pada Perang Dunia II (54 juta jiwa tewas), Perang Dunia I (17 juta jiwa), Masa penjajahan abad 15-20 di Asia (termasuk Indonesia dijajah Belanda), Afrika, Australia, Amerika, dsb, Perang Salib,
> > dsb. Lihat: http://islammyreligion.wordpress. com/2008/ 12/16/is- islam-the- most-violent- re
> > ligion-in-the- world/
Toh mereka tidak sadar. Mereka justru menganggap Islam paling biadab,teroris, babi, dsb. Jadi lucu jika mereka mendanai JIL untuk mengajarkan toleransi agama yang mereka sendiri tidak punya.Ini sering saya jumpai ketika berdiskusi dgn mereka di soc.culture. usa, dsb:

> > http://groups.google.co.id/group/ soc.culture. usa/browse_ thread/thread/ 79c8fa
> > 75515b17b5?hl= id#

> > ÇDoügßT
> > Newsgroup: soc.culture. usa, soc.culture. british,
> soc.culture. canada
> > Dari: "ÇDoügßT" <n...@muerto. com>
> > Tanggal: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:07:54 -0800
> > Perihal: Muslime pigs violated the cease fire in Gaza again
> >
By firing more rocket and mortar rounds into Israel.Time to push the muslime pigs into the sea. Let them swim to their homeland: Soddy Barbaria.
> >
> "A Nizami" <nizam...@gmail. com>
> wrote in message
> >
> > news:cd61d0b1-8b20- 493a-9aa6- a59ff2f7da70@ p2g2000prn. googlegroups. .com...

> > --- Pada Ming, 22/2/09, Wong Lim Pok <wong.lim.pok@ gmail.com> menulis:

> >> Dari: Wong Lim Pok <wong.lim.pok@ gmail.com>
> >> Topik: [is-lam] Deterring Democracy Was RE: Ummat
> Islam Tidak Radikal -
> > Bls: [ppiindia] Diskusi: Radikalisasi di Sekolah
> Negeri
> >> Kepada: is-lam@milis. isnet.org
> >> Tanggal: Minggu, 22 Februari, 2009, 9:09 PM
> >> Deterring Democracy
> >> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> >> Deterring Democracy
> >> Author Noam Chomsky
> >> Publisher Hill and Wang
> >> Publication date April, 1992
> >> Media type Paperback
> >> Pages 424
> >> ISBN ISBN 0374523495
> >>
> Deterring Democracy is a book published in 1992 by Noam Chomsky, which explores the differences between the humanitarian rhetoric and imperialistic reality of United States foreign policy and how it affects various countries around the world. In the book, Chomsky explores the idea that the US is the only remaining world superpower that works to maintain its dominance, even ruthlessly employing violence such as outright invasions and overthowing governments pursuing independent economic policies. He also discusse the large difference between public opinion on the Cold War, establishment American educated opinion and reality.
> >> The book also contains criticism aimed at the Soviet Union and other communist states, but makes a major
> point to the fact that if the United States really supported "freedom" in the cold war, then why did it still support
authoritarian regimes? The conclusion that Chomsky comes to is that the U.S did not really care about supporting freedom,
> but rather maintaining dominance over resources and geopolitical power.
> >> [edit]Structure
> >>
> >> ONE Cold War: Fact and Fancy
> >> TWO The Home Front
> >> THREE The Global System
> >> FOUR Problems of Population Control
> >> FIVE The Post-Cold War Era
> >> SIX Nefarious Aggression
> >> SEVEN The Victors
> >> EIGHT The Agenda of the Doves: 1988
> >> NINE The Mortal Sin of Self-Defense
> >> TEN The Decline of the Democratic Ideal
> >> ELEVEN Democracy in the Industrial Societies
> >> TWELVE Force and Opinion
so, who's the teroris?
we will not go down, in t night without a fight

bila ada site yg gak kebuka, mungkin hurupnya kurang rapet he3

ya Allah y Rabbi, wahai Tuhan Penguasa smesta alam, berilaha bangsa kami jalan utk segera menangkap dan mengadili semua pelaku kerusuhan mei 98 amien

[ali5196]

OOooohhh ... jadi Islam itu toh MENYONTEK kelakuan2 Kejam KRISTEN toooohhhh ... Pantes di QUran disebutkan bahwa Islam MENYEMPURNAKAN agama2 terdahulU ! Menyempurnakan bagian kejamnya kali !

Jadi menurut pemikiran anda ...
1) Kristen jelek berarti : Islam pasti bagus
2) Kristen menyebarkan agama dgn pedang : Islam juga BOLEH dong ! Khan namanya menyempurnakan agama terdahulu !

Tenkyu man ! Lagi2 anda membuktikan bahwa agama anda cuma CONTEKAN/PHOTOCOPY agamanya kang Yesus. Bedanya, Yesus nggak pernah bunuh siapa2 dan nggak ganggu anak/istri orang, tapi MAMAD bunuh ribuan orang dan doyan nge-sex. Kristen juga ngebunuh sambil nyebut2 'Aluoooooohu Yesus' ?????

[ali5196]

menurut pemikiran saya kresten emang jelek... kecuali kresten KTP yang sudah meninggalkan alkitabnya...

UDah tahu jelek, kenapa dong Quran MENYEMPURNAKAN kitab2 terdahulu yg jelek itu ??? Berarti Islam sama--atawa LEBIH JELEK--- dari Kristen ! Jelek ngikutin jelek = super jelek.

[siali sina]

OOooohhh ... jadi Islam itu toh MENYONTEK kelakuan2 Kejam KRISTEN toooohhhh ... Pantes di QUran disebutkan bahwa Islam MENYEMPURNAKAN agama2 terdahulU ! Menyempurnakan bagian kejamnya kali !

Jadi menurut pemikiran anda ...
1) Kristen jelek berarti : Islam pasti bagus
2) Kristen menyebarkan agama dgn pedang : Islam juga BOLEH dong ! Khan namanya menyempurnakan agama terdahulu !

Tenkyu man ! Lagi2 anda membuktikan bahwa agama anda cuma CONTEKAN/PHOTOCOPY agamanya kang Yesus. Bedanya, Yesus nggak pernah bunuh siapa2 dan nggak ganggu anak/istri orang, tapi MAMAD bunuh ribuan orang dan doyan nge-sex. Kristen juga ngebunuh sambil nyebut2 'Aluoooooohu Yesus' ?????

duh lu mikirnya negatif melulu yak tong gw gak bilang agama yg satu jelek atau bagus, gue cuma mengutarakan semua dgn maksud bahwa I hope other people could see that violent happens everywhere in every religion. Introspection is all we need.
lu kalo muslim YG nulis apapun, langsung dibantai, dimaki, dicari kelemahannya dsb.
perlu lu inget yah? yg bilang jelek dan kata2 tdk pantas lainnya itu lebih banyak elu. gw (Alhamdulillah n Insya Allah), gak akan pernah disini.
Dari ucapan seseorang, khususnya kata2 yg kasar atau tdk pantas, baik ia beragama apapun, dah terlihat "siapa dirinya". Maka bagaimana mungkin ada yg ingin menyadarkan kesalahan seseorg bila kaumnya/dirinya lebih banyak memakai kalimat2 kasar dan menghujat?

pokoke WE WILL NOT GO DOWN

[ali5196]

duh lu mikirnya negatif melulu yak tong gw gak bilang agama yg satu jelek atau bagus, gue cuma mengutarakan semua dgn maksud bahwa I hope other people could see that violent happens everywhere in every religion. Introspection is all we need.

Duuuhh si otong ! Gua sangka ada masukan baru. Eh ternyata cuma ngulang2 yg itu2 juga. Kalau kekerasan terjadi di semua agama, apa dong hebatnya agama Islam ? Pada akhirnya Islam tidak bedanya dgn agama2 lain = GAGAL membawa perdamaian ! Kerjaannya peraaaaaang aja mulu !

lu kalo muslim YG nulis apapun, langsung dibantai, dimaki, dicari kelemahannya dsb.
perlu lu inget yah? yg bilang jelek dan kata2 tdk pantas lainnya itu lebih banyak elu. gw (Alhamdulillah n Insya Allah), gak akan pernah disini.

LOhhhh .. yg merasa dibantai, dimaki, dicari kelemahannya khan anda tuhh ... kalau anda menulis disini, jelas anda akan ditanggapi. Atau mau dicuekin aja nih ?

Dari ucapan seseorang, khususnya kata2 yg kasar atau tdk pantas, baik ia beragama apapun, dah terlihat "siapa dirinya". Maka bagaimana mungkin ada yg ingin menyadarkan kesalahan seseorg bila kaumnya/dirinya lebih banyak memakai kalimat2 kasar dan menghujat?

Kalau urusan kata2 kasar dan hujat menghujat, nggak ada yg lebih jago dari si Mamad SAW yg merasa bahwa kaumnya yg paling berhidayah dan berfitrah dan agamanya paling super dan seenak jidat menganggap kaum lain sbg najis, mungkar, musyrik, kafir (kecuali kalau lagi perlu duit !). Ini nih contoh terbaru, dari pengakuan seorang mantan ulama yg membocorkan kebusukan islam :

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=31044&start=20

Pandangan Muhammad yang sebenarnya tentang masyarakat Kristen, Yahudi, dan Persia (Orang² Ahli Kitab) tampak nyata pada ucapannya: Setiap bayi lahir dengan naluri dan orangtuanya memilih untuk membesarkannya sebagai orang Yahudi, Kristen, atau Zoroastria, sama seperti binatang membesarkan binatang. [55]
[55] Sahih Al Bukhari, Al Bukhari, Bab Pernyataan Al Janas, nomer 1359.

Begitulah pandangannya tentang negara² dan agama² tersebut, yakni mereka semua adalah binatang yang melahirkan binatang lain. Tatkala Almojira bertemu dengan pemimpin tentara Persia, dia berkata:
‘Mereka yang selamat dari serangan tentara Baduy yang akan memperbudak kalian masyarakat Persia.’
Kalimat ini artinya bahwa masyarakat Persia akan jadi budak, tidak peduli mereka masuk Islam atau tidak. Hal ini membuktikan bahwa pernyataan para ulama bahwa mereka cinta Yesus dan agama² non-Islam lainnya adalah bohong belaka. Muhammad dalam pidatonya menyamakan kafir pengikut agama non-Islam sebagai binatang. Orang² kafir ini diperlakukan sebagai binatang, mereka dipaksa bayar Jizya yang tinggi, hidup sebagai warga negara kelas dua, dan jadi budak bagi penguasa Muslim Baduy yang menghancurkan dan menjajah peradaban mereka.

pokoke WE WILL NOT GO DOWN

You already ARE, man, like your prophet. DOWN... deep in the dungeons of hell.

[jadilah_Bijaksana]

Saya sendiri sebagai Pribumi cukup heran dengan Pribumi yang Rasis. Jika diteliti lagi, orang China itu menjual barang - barang dengan harga lebih murah dari pedagang barat / Pribumi.orang China sangat ulet, dari dagang telur sampai jadi Jutawan bukanlah hal yang mustahil.

Isu SARA ini sering dijadikan alat untuk kepentingan Politik, seperti yang terjadi di pada Mei 1998.Pemerintah Cina sama pintarnya dengan Muhammad dalam masalah Hankam. mereka tak segan segan berperang dengan Indonesia jika terjadi kerusuhan etnis yang serupa. dan hasilnya membuktikan para politikus yang menggunakan Isu SARA tidak ada lagi.

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Ini adalah contoh kebiadaban dari ajaran yang katanya "terbaik". Peristiwa keji seperti ini atau G30S akan terus terulang selama ajaran agama "katanya" masih eksis.

[I Want You]

Ini adalah contoh kebiadaban dari ajaran yang katanya "terbaik". Peristiwa keji seperti ini atau G30S akan terus terulang selama ajaran agama "katanya" masih eksis.

ya , saya juga setuju ! selama agama biadab ini masih bercokol di indonesia , saya yakin chinese2 masih perlu siap2 di bantai , di perkosa , di jarah , di siksa, di lecehkan, di bantai sambil mereka berteriak2 alohuakbar !

[up1234go]

Isu SARA ini sering dijadikan alat untuk kepentingan Politik, seperti yang terjadi di pada Mei 1998. Pemerintah Cina sama pintarnya dengan Muhammad dalam masalah Hankam.

Mana ayat-ayat tuhannya kalau pemerintah komunis china kamu anggap pintar dalam masalah Hankam?

[Bagol5]

@atas : koq pemerintah pake ayat2 tuhan? bukannya pake undang2?

[Al Basalamah]

hoax

[Gen3ster]

hoax

Klo seandainya aja peristiwa itu terjadi pada seisi keluargamu namun dalam waktu dan tempat yg berbeda, akankah kamu berkata demikian?

Saya sendiri sebagai Pribumi cukup heran dengan Pribumi yang Rasis. Jika diteliti lagi, orang China itu menjual barang - barang dengan harga lebih murah dari pedagang barat / Pribumi.orang China sangat ulet, dari dagang telur sampai jadi Jutawan bukanlah hal yang mustahil.

Isu SARA ini sering dijadikan alat untuk kepentingan Politik, seperti yang terjadi di pada Mei 1998.Pemerintah Cina sama pintarnya dengan Muhammad dalam masalah Hankam. mereka tak segan segan berperang dengan Indonesia jika terjadi kerusuhan etnis yang serupa. dan hasilnya membuktikan para politikus yang menggunakan Isu SARA tidak ada lagi.

Rata2 org pribumi itu pemalas, mereka hanya ingin yg enaknya aja dan nikmatin hasil, klo urusan bersusah payah, ntar dolo. Makanya ni negara kaga pernah maju2 walaupun kekayaan alam melimpah ruah tapi selalu mau didikte/nunduk ama AS dan negara2 maju lainnya

[access]

fiuh, setiap x gak sengaja baca berita ini luka dihati terbuka lagi.( gak taunya disini malah ada post hal ini)
masih ingat saya kata-kata " bunuh cina, dimesjid pun saya dengar darah orang cina itu halal ditumpahkan, heran saya kenapa agama ini begitu jahat?? saya tidak menyalahkan manusianya, tetapi ajarannya yang membuat manusianya seperti itu.
saya yang waktu kecil saat itu hanya bisa bersembunyi takut dibunuh muslim-muslim radikal.

Hai muslim coba buka nurani kalian, saya yang menjadi korban saja bisa memaafkan kalian yang melakukan itu kepada kamu, kenapa kalian tanpa sebab malah mencoba membunuh kami???

[Gen3ster]

fiuh, setiap x gak sengaja baca berita ini luka dihati terbuka lagi.( gak taunya disini malah ada post hal ini)
masih ingat saya kata-kata " bunuh cina, dimesjid pun saya dengar darah orang cina itu halal ditumpahkan, heran saya kenapa agama ini begitu jahat?? saya tidak menyalahkan manusianya, tetapi ajarannya yang membuat manusianya seperti itu.
saya yang waktu kecil saat itu hanya bisa bersembunyi takut dibunuh muslim-muslim radikal.

Hai muslim coba buka nurani kalian, saya yang menjadi korban saja bisa memaafkan kalian yang melakukan itu kepada kamu, kenapa kalian tanpa sebab malah mencoba membunuh kami???

Syukur kamu bisa mengampuni, kamu harus bisa mengampuni dan melupakan kesalahana mereka supaya jiwa kamu bisa damai dan tenang

Ni huruf yg gw gedein:

- Karena cina waktu itu dianggap numpang dan dianggap org asing

- Karena tampang Edi Tansil, si koruptor terbesar itu tampangnya mirip cina maka mereka lgs berpikiran tertutup dan meng-generalisasikan bahwa semua cina itu koruptor makanya bisa kaya

- Karena sirik, rata2 dan sebagian besar org2 islam itu mudah sirik thd segala sesuatu spt nabi palsu mereka yg sirik akan keagungan dan kebaikan Yesus, yg akhirnya meniru alkitab dan membuat al-quran supaya dia bisa setara dengan Yesus

Bukti:

(setelah membaca thread ini, silahkan membanding2kan alkitab dan al-quran utk memastikan
BUKTI KUAT QUR'AN KARANGAN MUHAMMAD

Muhammad dirikan agama, bukti dia nabi palsu

[oglikom]

Jadi siapa yang TOLOL ya disini ? MUSLIM

Sudah makan bawang putih, lum..??

[ogig]

Buat oglikom yang baik.daripada nuduh orang MUSLIM tolol, dan ngomongin bawang. Lebih baik jawab pertanyaan gw tegas. Paulus itu NABI atau PENULIS INJIL ? Kalau gak bisa jawab pertanyaan ini, berarti orang KRISTEN yg TOLOL ya...karena jawab pertanyaan sederhana aja gak bisa ya wakakkakak

[oglikom]

Ogig yang baik kalau mau tanya siapa yang suka makan bawang putih memang disini.
Kalau mau tanya siapayang menulis quran memang disini forumnya
Sang penulisnya tidak suka bawang putih (sejenis Vampire khaleey)

[ogig]

gw emang udah kira, pertanyaan soal PAULUS gak bakal ada yang bisa jawab!!! Belokinnya malah ngomonign bawang..! CAPEE DEH...

[Gen3ster]

hehehe lucu ya, kalau ada yang nulis MUHAMMAD NABI PALSU (pake huruf gede pula...).
Gw tanya deh sama ORANG2 KRISTEN di forum ini deh !!. PAULUS tuh NABI atau PENULIS INJIL ? Kalau di bilang dia cuma PENULIS INJIL, kok dia bisa ngerubah hukum2 yang dijalankan Yesus sendiri ya ... (sunat, makanan haram, trinitas).
Untuk bisa ngerubah hukum2 Allah, haruslah seorang NABI bukan???
Tapi kalau dibilang dia NABI,,, masa ada sih NABI bekas pembunuh ?!!! Pembunuh pengikut Yesus pula !!!
Jadi siapa yang TOLOL ya disini ? MUSLIM atau KRISTEN ??

Sebelum Paulus menjadi pengikut Kristus, Paulus dahulu bernama Saulus, org yg amat sgt membenci yesus krn menganggap yesus itu bukan anak Allah makanya itu dia membantai semua pengikut yesus krn dia menganggap semua pengikut kristus itu sesat,

Sampai akhirnya Tuhan yesus sendiri yg menampakkan dirinya utk Saulus dan seketika itu juga Saulus bertobat dan mengganti namanya menjadi Paulus. Tidak hanya itu, Paulus pun disuruh Yesus utk menjadi nabi mengemban tugas mewartakan kabar gembira bahwa Yesus adalah mesias ke seluruh pelosok dunia dan utk mengajarkan apa yg sudah diberitakannya selama dy masih hidup. Utk lebih jelasnya, silahkan buka kisah para rasul dan Timotius di perjanjian baru (Itu klo penasaran)